# CCPlease respond on your own forum **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 28, 2021, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948 "2021-02-28T16:02:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Xanthellus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xanthellus/32/253691_2.png) [@Xanthellus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xanthellus)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948/102 "2021-03-16T09:28:36Z")
The only thing this thread is good for is identifying the crazies with their, always negative, weird and outlandish theories that make no sense whatsoever or are observably wrong. Every time someone posts idiotic nonsense like that I get to add them to the ignore list so I don’t have to suffer their personal issues any more. This is also the reason why CCP doesn’t post on their own forums: they can’t filter out the problem people so they just stop bothering, I can’t blame them. I just wish that instead they’d actively get rid of the Negative Andy’s (which isn’t the same as getting rid of discussion or people who don’t agree with stuff) and that the community as a whole realises that those people are the reason why the forum sucks, and thus why CCP can’t be bothered, and stop interacting with and feeding those folks. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948/103 "2021-03-16T10:01:05Z")
> [@Xanthellus](#): > > I just wish that instead they’d actively get rid of the Negative Andy’s (which isn’t the same as getting rid of discussion or people who don’t agree with stuff) Can you define the rules that this would be workable under? More specifically what makes someone an undesirable? Asking for a fiend ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948/104 "2021-03-16T10:33:19Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > More specifically what makes someone an undesirable? A very long time ago, I heard that it’s belligerence. ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948/105 "2021-03-16T10:46:48Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > And even if its accurate, the resources required can’t really be justified for 3% as they won’t all be logged in at once so the day to day use is 3% of about 30k, which is a pretty insignificant number of players, we’re talking, less than the number of people in jita on a daily basis small Less than 1% of players got to participate in the Alliance Tournament (well, when it was still annually organized), way less than 1% of players got to ever enjoy the tournament prizes and so on. How do you justify all the resources and dev time spent on that then? As I understand it creating and maintaining the tools for it was behind the scenes considerable timesink and many devs spent a lot of their own free time for it as well. All I’m saying “but the resources” is a poor excuse for this, plenty of resources are spent on content a vast number of players will never see or use. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948/106 "2021-03-16T11:13:24Z")
> [@Teinyhr](#): > > way less than 1% of players got to ever enjoy the tournament prizes and so on. How do you justify all the resources and dev time spent on that then? You mean the wages they were paid for normally doing something else? I mean, you do realise there is a massive difference between costs of developing an entire codebase addition to the game and just having devs sit around while they stream a videogame that already exists right? > [@Teinyhr](#): > > As I understand it creating and maintaining the tools for it was behind the scenes considerable timesink and many devs spent a lot of their own free time for it as well. And even that would still be far less than having to maintain and deal with an entire engine just to render a single room which has to be checked every single update, the tools for the streaming of the AT only need checking once a year The numbers aren’t even remotely the same ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948/107 "2021-03-16T11:31:02Z")
> [@Teinyhr](#): > > All I’m saying “but the resources” is a poor excuse for this, plenty of resources are spent on content a vast number of players will never see or use. Ok I’ll just quote the most relevant part for you. And to continue a bit further on the above, all those players obviously would like resources spent more on the stuff _they_ enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948/108 "2021-03-16T11:52:40Z")
> [@Teinyhr](#): > > Ok I’ll just quote the most relevant part for you Doesn’t work because it still requires context and comparisons There is also the cost to benefit side of it, they don’t benefit from WiS they did benefit from the advertising of the game via an event, there are a lot of variables that complicate it beyond the point where a single sentence covers it ---
**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948/109 "2021-03-16T11:56:31Z")
> [@hellokittyonline](#): > > CCPlease respond on your own forum Seeing how everything devolves into a pile I wouldn’t as an employee of CCP do it, too many crazies. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948/110 "2021-03-16T11:58:39Z")
Yeah… but thats like saying “As a professional gardener, Im not going to tidy this garden because its just full of weeds anyway” ---
**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948/111 "2021-03-16T12:00:16Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > weeds With thorns. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948/112 "2021-03-16T12:02:00Z")
I dont really think the average forum denizen has even the power to scratch skin ---
**Author:** ![hellokittyonline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellokittyonline/32/244672_2.png) [@hellokittyonline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hellokittyonline)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948/113 "2021-03-16T16:11:30Z")
You want to believe we’re wrong because we challenge your bias, not because you’ve actually considered or looked up anything we’ve said. Gotta stay woke my friend. Step one is actually considering other peoples point of view. ---
**Author:** ![Xanthellus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xanthellus/32/253691_2.png) [@Xanthellus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xanthellus)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948/114 "2021-03-16T16:55:56Z")
Death by a thousand cuts. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948/115 "2021-03-16T17:28:44Z")
I know what you are saying, but really, how thin a skin do you think CCP have? ---
**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948/116 "2021-03-16T17:35:27Z")
I can’t believe the assertion that Reddit is less toxic than being in these forums. Especially since CCP has full power to moderate any thread using ISDs ,devs, GMs, and the newly promoted Community Relations manager and team members. In fact, a judicial use of directive control should tend to produce better and more useful feedback on all issues, except for specific null sec problems, since the null sec bloc wouldn’t usually be caught in here. Instead of engaging in here on the issues, CCP has chosen to drop changes and announcements haphazardly like a driver throwing stuff out a window; once it hits and stays, it remains abandoned. ---
**Author:** ![Xanthellus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xanthellus/32/253691_2.png) [@Xanthellus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xanthellus)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948/117 "2021-03-16T17:40:05Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > how thin a skin do you think CCP have? I don’t think you realise how much of a thrash pile this forum is, you might just be used to it by now… jaded by it. To me there’s no point in going through all the ■■■■ thread spam looking to find that one smidge of actually useful information so I don’t expect CCP to bother either. In my case I’ve already have 20 people on ignore and I’ve only been here for a month, adding to it on a daily basis almost. People who either are raging negative Andy’s, people who just troll or people who add nothing of value ever. They suck the life out of pretty much every thread and change the subject to yet the same thing like in all threads. As forumites you reap what you sow. ---
**Author:** ![hellokittyonline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellokittyonline/32/244672_2.png) [@hellokittyonline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hellokittyonline)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948/118 "2021-03-16T17:41:14Z")
The last 3 games I’ve played recently (WoW, PoE, and Eve) are all 3 doing the same shady ■■■■. Never communicating with their playerbase. Extremely sus changes that are really trying to leave a space for the illegal RMT that attracts WHALES. CCP doesn’t communicate because they have to be SUPER CAREFUL about what they say so as to not reveal their super shady business practices (read: fraud) CCPs turnover time on reports is (purposefully) slow so the bots can still make a profit and will still resub a new account after the ban (the last round of bots I reported took 3 months to recieve a ban… conveniently right after the start of a new financial quarter). They try to play up the difficulty of banning bots so they’re not held accountable but in actuality they’re committing fraud. ---
**Author:** ![Xanthellus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xanthellus/32/253691_2.png) [@Xanthellus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xanthellus)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948/119 "2021-03-16T17:42:06Z")
> [@Buoytender\_Bob](#): > > I can’t believe the assertion that Reddit is less toxic than being in these forums. Especially since CCP has full power to moderate any thread using ISDs ,devs, GMs, and the newly promoted Community Relations manager and team members. Reddit is worse due to the negative vote option, those people are scared of being voted down into oblivion. It’s both good as bad: it’s self cleaning but it also hides dissenting opinions which is not good. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948/120 "2021-03-16T17:43:39Z")
The thread spam mostly exists because people debate endlessly about what CCP intends If CCP stated it in the forums, then I believe the vast majority of stupid arguments about the nature of facts would dry up pretty quick. ---
**Author:** ![hellokittyonline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellokittyonline/32/244672_2.png) [@hellokittyonline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hellokittyonline)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948/121 "2021-03-16T17:46:56Z")
CCP will never state their intents because their intents are borderline illegal at this point. Again, trying to hold space for RMT (and its whales) while telling the playerbase they’re doing all they can to fight botting. It’s why there’s so little communcation. CCP is basically sitting their clenched hoping their community doesn’t finally draw the obvious conclusion. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccplease-respond-on-your-own-forum/297948.md?page=7)