# CCP's botting excuse for the market changes is false **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 12, 2020, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379 "2020-03-12T12:52:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379/95 "2020-03-12T18:32:55Z")
> [@Shaigh](#): > > This is simply not true and they have no evidence to support it… Lmao, what a crock ofshit. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379/96 "2020-03-12T18:35:12Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > This was another change to boost null sec groups income. Bollocks. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379/97 "2020-03-12T18:35:37Z")
> [@Karol\_Godula](#): > > May as well stop playing Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![Candice\_Tauen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/candice_tauen/32/454808_2.png) [@Candice\_Tauen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Candice_Tauen)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379/98 "2020-03-12T18:50:26Z")
Thanks CCP, thanks to this market update, I’m finally going to succeed in stopping the game. For 2 years, I was trying to find a way to stop Eve. This is now. The broker’s fee stole me 177 million for an update of 1 isk in my sell order of 37 tengu. I’m never going to sell them. 177M for an order modification that cost 100 isk the day before … great job. I was not informed of this … update. You just shot yourself in the feet by doing this update. I never complained on any forum, now I do, damn. You won’t kill only botters by doing this, you’ll kill people that played for years too. This is the end of my 5 years journey, had great moments. o7 ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379/99 "2020-03-12T18:53:09Z")
> [@Candice\_Tauen](#): > > I’m finally going to succeed in stopping the game Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379/100 "2020-03-12T18:55:10Z")
> [@Candice\_Tauen](#): > > Thanks CCP, thanks to this market update, I’m finally going to succeed in stopping the game. Thanks CCP, for clearing out weak competition who don’t have the brain cells needed to adapt to a simple change in gameplay. > [@Candice\_Tauen](#): > > The broker’s fee stole me 177 million for an **update of 1 isk** in my sell order of 37 tengu. That was kind of the entire point of this change. To get rid of rapid and meaningless 1 isk market order updates. You are engaging in EXACTLY the type of behavior CCP wants players to stop. ---
**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379/101 "2020-03-12T18:56:01Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > > [@Candice\_Tauen](#): > > > > I’m finally going to succeed in stopping the game > > Good riddance. I could imagine if there was only two of you left in the game and the other decided to leave you would say ‘Good riddance’. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379/102 "2020-03-12T18:56:57Z")
> [@Scarlet\_Starfire](#): > > I could imagine if there was only two of you left in the game and the other decided to leave you would say ‘Good riddance’. Of course, why wouldn’t I? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379/103 "2020-03-12T18:59:38Z")
> [@Candice\_Tauen](#): > > you’ll kill people That’s not very funny tbh ---
**Author:** ![Zepheros\_Naeonis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zepheros_naeonis/32/191455_2.png) [@Zepheros\_Naeonis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zepheros_Naeonis)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379/104 "2020-03-12T19:04:06Z")
> [@Shaigh](#): > > You’re right, there’s nothing that I can do about it and have to accept letting all my market orders just sit there forever while being undercut by new orders…and after my order times expire, I’ll be screwed anyway with the cost of relisting them… And for those of us that did play the .01 isk game, relisting now completely removes profit from the picture after only a handful of relistings. So for those of us that did market PvP legitimately, this just completely ruined the game for us. ---
**Author:** ![Suleman\_Tazinas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/suleman_tazinas/32/178003_2.png) [@Suleman\_Tazinas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Suleman_Tazinas)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379/105 "2020-03-12T19:04:56Z")
What are you going to do when they implement the 35% fixed sales tax soon? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379/106 "2020-03-12T19:07:12Z")
As always, adapt. ---
**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379/107 "2020-03-12T19:08:50Z")
In RL you have to adapt you don’t get any real options, in a game there’s always options. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379/108 "2020-03-12T19:10:08Z")
> [@Scarlet\_Starfire](#): > > In RL you have to adapt you don’t get any real options What? ---
**Author:** ![Trololol\_Sisjan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trololol_sisjan/32/179809_2.png) [@Trololol\_Sisjan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trololol_Sisjan)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379/109 "2020-03-12T19:10:30Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > These 60 market bots I just banned won’t get to play Into The Abyss, but I guess you could say they were given a one way ticket into the abyss. Deleted their characters too. Market botting is PVP in EVE Online and we are cracking down. #tweetfleet #eveonline > > [6:54 AM - 29 May 2018](https://twitter.com/ccp_peligro/status/1001461893939286021) Sooooo… it is almost 2 years they know how to find bots. but… [some stupid explanation here] ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379/110 "2020-03-12T19:12:52Z")
> [@Trololol\_Sisjan](#): > > but… [some stupid explanation here] Too complex for you to handle != stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Zepheros\_Naeonis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zepheros_naeonis/32/191455_2.png) [@Zepheros\_Naeonis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zepheros_Naeonis)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379/111 "2020-03-12T19:14:15Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > That was kind of the entire point of this change. To get rid of rapid and meaningless 1 isk market order updates. You are engaging in EXACTLY the type of behavior CCP wants players to stop. If it really was meaningless they wouldn’t have removed it. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379/112 "2020-03-12T19:16:49Z")
> [@Zepheros\_Naeonis](#): > > If it really was meaningless they wouldn’t have removed it. It was meaningless updates, so CCP removed them. What do you not understand with that ? ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379/113 "2020-03-12T19:19:55Z")
It was meaningless because it removed all sense of worthwhile market pvp. The only thing you had to do was no-life the game harder by updating your orders ever 5 minutes to “win” in market pvp. I know your brain can only function one blip at a time, but try to see beyond a single word and think about the impact it has. ---
**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379/114 "2020-03-12T19:41:49Z")
Meaningless to non traders because they generally couldn’t be bothered to play the 0.01 isk mini game. 0.01 isk mini game was the PvP, had quite a few battles over the years some of them lasting several hours. Especially if they thought you were trying to muscle in on their market products. Had 1 in Jita once after a few hours decided to give up, but only because Jita wasn’t my market region and decided to get back to my own region. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccps-botting-excuse-for-the-market-changes-is-false/225379.md?page=6)