# Change is coming **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 17, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800 "2018-10-17T15:40:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/183 "2018-10-18T18:36:51Z")
Any of this does not detract from the fact that a break is needed, until the wind I see where she blows. 🤣 12-18 month in my estimation. ---
**Author:** ![gnshadowninja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gnshadowninja/32/160500_2.png) [@gnshadowninja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/gnshadowninja)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/184 "2018-10-18T18:40:50Z")
Wow seems I missed some well constructed and formed discussions in the last 20 posts. Jokes, I don’t know what the hell How YaDoing is cracking on about but seems to have alot of questions with little intelligence. ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/185 "2018-10-18T18:45:13Z")
I believe I’ve said this before but it’s worth saying again. As a player I’ve had many roles, corp infiltrator, awoxer, thief, pirate, nullsec fleet grunt, wormhole pvper, industrialist and carebear (in all areas). During this time I’ve been in wardecced corps countless times, as a veteran but also mostly as a regular inexperienced player. I even played the market for a long time and flew hundreds of billions worth of isk around hisec on a regular basis. In all that time, over 10 years, I’ve never lost a PVE ship to a wardec or a ganker. Why? I never once felt this game owed me anything. The danger made it exciting and engaging and I enjoyed the challenge of circumventing them and finding inventive ways to overcome obstacles. I managed risk and weighed up my options. I never felt entitled, I never cried, I made an effort to overcome adversity. I’ve flown with people who have been so incredibly arrogant that they’ve practically invited wars to be rained down on them and cried so hard in public that they attracted even more. I’ve also flown with, and killed many people who’ve flaunted their wealth and in doing so invited despair. Greedy, lazy types who’d rather make a single freighter run from Amarr to Jita than a few runs in a blockade runner. You know who I mean… What’s laughable about all this is that PVE players have more tools than ever at their disposal to help keep them safe. You should be thankful it’s not 2008, you wouldn’t have lasted a week. Essentially you’ve invited this. You aren’t victims, you’re enablers. If you want to change something, change your attitude. New Eden doesn’t owe you a living. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/186 "2018-10-18T18:45:44Z")
You missed something alright. Shhh… its ok go back to sleep, just cloak up put on netflix and forget you were ever here. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/187 "2018-10-18T18:57:28Z")
You really think that for 15 years CCP never tried to understand their own game? THey have all needed information! Hm… My company is only first few years in business and we already working about various statistics about our customers and features they want and use. No one in their right mind will do business blindly! ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/188 "2018-10-18T18:58:17Z")
The majority of CODE. consists of permanent -10 characters ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/190 "2018-10-18T19:01:25Z")
CCP employed players some em like to gank and grief, permaband plays it nicely. To Ima the majority of CODE may be full of minus 10 toons but not all of those alts are minus 10 quite a few alts do scouting and awoxing, toons you warp to some in mining ships get close for the warp in etc etc. Your ilk’s modus operandi is there for all to see. ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/191 "2018-10-18T19:02:29Z")
> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#): > > Blah blah blah OK you are IMBA ULTRA SuperDuper Eve player … > > But today noone want to spend real money on “FUN” gamplay like that … > > Bye and have a nice life … … and you wonder why you’re a victim. I haven’t spent so much as a single cent on Eve in many many years. I’m clever enough to earn it without dying. As I said, entitled. ---
**Author:** ![Veryez](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veryez/32/508712_2.png) [@Veryez](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veryez)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/192 "2018-10-18T19:03:38Z")
> [@gnshadowninja](#): > > Then read the following statement further down where the statistics show new players aren’t being effected. > > Glad your able to quote from minutes but unable to read them. What page are you looking at, as I’ve read the entire minutes, I must have missed it. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/193 "2018-10-18T19:04:28Z")
> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#): > > But today noone want to spend real money on “FUN” gamplay like that … There are a lot of player looking for challenging games. Just because YOU are not attracted to them does not mean there is no market for them. 15 years of EVE prove there are quite a more of players enjoning this game as it is. Also you don’t represent whatever majority you think you belong to. You are just a litle sad whiner who can’t handle a game. Other don’t have an issue with it. EVE will still be EVE when you are long gone because you lost interest in trolling here and some others like you have replaced you already. ---
**Author:** ![Taloris\_Aldercain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/taloris_aldercain/32/317529_2.png) [@Taloris\_Aldercain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Taloris_Aldercain)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/194 "2018-10-18T19:04:39Z")
In my opinion that’s a poor way of looking at the situation. Yes, it’s a topic beaten to death but there is such thing as constructive criticism/feedback from those not playing the game for their own reason. That doesn’t mean the game will change to cater to them, but as long as responses are constructive they’re worth listening to. ---
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/195 "2018-10-18T19:04:49Z")
> [@Mortlake](#): > > I haven’t spent so much as a single cent on Eve in many many years. I’m clever enough to earn it without dying. Nice dream. 👍 And what happen when you wake up ??? 🤣🤣🤣 ---
**Author:** ![How\_YaDoing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/how_yadoing/32/101846_2.png) [@How\_YaDoing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/How_YaDoing)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/196 "2018-10-18T19:06:58Z")
Oh ■■■■ the old beast woke up from his nappie time on the couch. gnblindshadow : aaaah, so , lets see this topic again from this noob newbie carebear What ? how dare he !! i will reply my best ever !! just you wait howyadoingnoob types : > [@gnshadowninja](#): > > Wow seems I missed some well constructed and formed discussions in the last 20 posts. > > Jokes, I don’t know what the hell How YaDoing is cracking on about but seems to have alot of questions with little intelligence. gnblindasabatninja: So, that will teach him, even made a funny. ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/197 "2018-10-18T19:07:38Z")
> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#): > > Nice dream. 👍 > And what happen when you wake up ??? 🤣🤣🤣 If you spent less time doing this… ![200](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/e/0e1819ca2411df4f2fe5265ecff8df2a89d0042a.gif) … and more time learning how to play you’d understand. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/198 "2018-10-18T19:08:06Z")
> [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#): > > some in mining ships get close for the warp in etc etc. Your ilk’s modus operandi is there for all to see. So because you are special you want yo be able to attack sec positive players because you feel like it? My scout/looter goes suspect after every gank, yet no one ever shoots him, yet they could. I bet you would not shoot him as well your just talking like every carebear ever. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/199 "2018-10-18T19:09:39Z")
No i would warp away come back in something cloaky slap the toon on red pen list lol and laugh at your ineptitude. ---
**Author:** ![gnshadowninja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gnshadowninja/32/160500_2.png) [@gnshadowninja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/gnshadowninja)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/200 "2018-10-18T19:14:42Z")
> [@Veryez](#): > > What page are you looking at, as I’ve read the entire minutes, I must have missed it. > Lebowski brings up the data which shows that it’s not actually a lot of brand new players that are > being war decced, because they are not worth declaring war on most likely. Typically it´s more > established corporations that get hit once they are big enough to be a target. Page 9, 4th row down. > [@How\_YaDoing](#): > > Oh ■■■■ the old beast woke up from his nappie time on the couch. > > gnblindshadow : aaaah, so , lets see this topic again from this noob newbie carebear > What ? how dare he !! i will reply my best ever !! just you wait howyadoingnoob Are you like 12? Seriously whats wrong with you man. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/201 "2018-10-18T19:15:12Z")
As we have seen today you even have trouble mining in highsec. So maybe it would be best if you just stay docked in such a situation. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/202 "2018-10-18T19:17:26Z")
I dock for no one no need. I’m either flying in space or exploding in glorious fashion either way its fun. But one has to admit a broken game needs some love as Brisc Rubal would say, I voted for that dude as well. You will have to excuse me I have jusat cracked a keg and am re-watching the UK EU referendum results on youtube while laughing my arse off at the remoaners. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/203 "2018-10-18T19:19:48Z")
There is just nothing broken with the stuff you cry about. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800.md?page=11)