# Change is coming **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 17, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800 "2018-10-17T15:40:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/225 "2018-10-18T20:18:03Z")
> [@Lugburz](#): > > Like i said, you and i both know what im saying is true No, I actually only know people who wardec because there is something blingy to shoot at. I don’t know anyone who is interested in killing dome newbs Atron in a wardec. Maybe it’s just you and your “friends” ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/226 "2018-10-18T20:18:12Z")
Ive seen the world, its literally a horrible place. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/227 "2018-10-18T20:19:45Z")
nah, denial doesnt make it untrue 😉 Thats just the way you are; for some lying is a way of life and quite often you believe your own lies - thats not a me problem, thats a YOU problem. glhf ---
**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/228 "2018-10-18T20:25:10Z")
This thread is a compilation of Marmite and PIRAT tears. Personally I didn’t know bots had so many tears. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/229 "2018-10-18T20:25:25Z")
You disagree with what people who actually have the data and care about new players said, CCP. They say new players are not the target of wardecs. It really doesen’t matter what gut feelings or anecdotal evidence you have, you are just plain and simply wrong. ---
**Author:** ![gnshadowninja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gnshadowninja/32/160500_2.png) [@gnshadowninja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/gnshadowninja)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/230 "2018-10-18T20:26:32Z")
> [@Sugar\_Smacks](#): > > This thread is a compilation of Marmite and PIRAT tears. > > Personally I didn’t know bots had so many tears. I haven’t actually seen anyone from PIRAT or Marmite post? ---
**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/231 "2018-10-18T20:26:43Z")
On their mains… ---
**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/232 "2018-10-18T20:27:55Z")
Usually when something is controversial and about to change people get out the ole threat “i will quit if you do this”, but this time is funny different. Player retention is expected to be so high we can tell them all to go and it wont even be noticeable… ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/233 "2018-10-18T20:29:17Z")
misinformation will not work on me and no, im not about to pull up all my chatlogs or start on a tirade about the wardecks against barve newbies or ivy league; > [@Lugburz](#): > > Like i said, we all know the truth of it; whether you admit it or not doesnt change a fact. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/234 "2018-10-18T20:30:20Z")
I was in marmite for a bit as well as a few other places. read what i say; im a pvper though, i like fighting targets. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/235 "2018-10-18T20:31:50Z")
The only people I saw talking about quoting are from the camp who thinks CCP will delete wardecs and create a carebear paradise. On the other hand the people who wardec know CCP can’t just delete the mechanic and honestly they where begging for years to change it because the current trade lane camping is just ■■■■. But they have at least somewhat realistic expectations about where this is going. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/236 "2018-10-18T20:32:13Z")
^ this guy doesnt like targets that can shoot back, he is not a pvper. ---
**Author:** ![Markus\_Reinhart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/markus_reinhart/32/133706_2.png) [@Markus\_Reinhart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Markus_Reinhart)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/237 "2018-10-18T20:32:15Z")
this is an Icelandic company where favouritism, nationalism and massive stubbornness at all odds, reigns. ---
**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/238 "2018-10-18T20:32:37Z")
I like how you spin it from changing it to need a structure to wardec to deleting it outright. Your spin is spinny. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/239 "2018-10-18T20:33:22Z")
> [@Lugburz](#): > > misinformation will not work on me and no, im not about to pull up all my chatlogs or start on a tirade about the wardecks against barve newbies or ivy league; As I said, no one cares about your anecdotal evidence. The people with the data say new players are not the target. You are wrong. That’s just how it works. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/240 "2018-10-18T20:33:22Z")
uh no you should read the article i think… ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/241 "2018-10-18T20:33:52Z")
did you know 99% of statistics are wrong? ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Buldath](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_buldath/32/381437_2.png) [@ISD\_Buldath](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Buldath)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/242 "2018-10-18T20:36:08Z")
Hi everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/243 "2018-10-18T20:36:44Z")
> [@Lugburz](#): > > did you know 99% of statistics are wrong? Including this one? I get it is discomforting if the facts collide with your believes. But that shouldn’t make you ignore them ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/244 "2018-10-18T20:37:06Z")
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