# Change is coming

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 17, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800 "2018-10-17T15:40:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/265 "2018-10-18T20:50:50Z")

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> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> wardec corp

Wardec corp? Just saying that shows there is a problem.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/266 "2018-10-18T20:51:11Z")

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hey ISD go fix the sperg in jita local please.

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**Author:** ![Kieron\_VonDeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kieron_vondeux/32/38030_2.png) [@Kieron\_VonDeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kieron_VonDeux)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/267 "2018-10-18T20:51:44Z")

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He’s up on post 92 or something atm.

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/268 "2018-10-18T20:52:48Z")

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> [@Mr\_Epeen](#):
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> Wardec corp? Just saying that shows there is a problem.

EVE is a game and some like to play mercenary which is awesome this was even possible for a while. But CCP broke it and now the only way to do it was to block trade lanes

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**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/269 "2018-10-18T20:53:46Z")

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Isnt that CODEs job?

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/270 "2018-10-18T20:54:26Z")

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We are not mercenaries and we don’t do wardecs (most of the time). Also freighter ganking is just a handful of CODE players but famous because of the insane killmails it creates.

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**Author:** ![Eve\_Griefer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eve_griefer/32/277788_2.png) [@Eve\_Griefer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eve_Griefer)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/271 "2018-10-18T20:54:59Z")

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> [@ISD\_Buldath](#):
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> Preety much

You have my sympathy. Wading through this morass is not pleasant.

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**Author:** ![Kieron\_VonDeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kieron_vondeux/32/38030_2.png) [@Kieron\_VonDeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kieron_VonDeux)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/272 "2018-10-18T20:56:01Z")

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CODEs job is to annoy players, within the “rules”.

Of course their mantra provides them cover, sort of.

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**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/273 "2018-10-18T20:57:19Z")

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You can say CODE doesn’t care about loot all you want. But try taking that loot away from them and see how much they care then. I have, they care plenty.

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/274 "2018-10-18T20:57:37Z")

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> [@Kieron\_VonDeux](#):
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> CODEs job is to annoy players, within the “rules”.

We are probably the most transparent organisation I’m the whole game about the reasons why we do what we do. Yet you still managed to get it wrong. Wow.

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**Author:** ![Kieron\_VonDeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kieron_vondeux/32/38030_2.png) [@Kieron\_VonDeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kieron_VonDeux)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/275 "2018-10-18T20:58:54Z")

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I’ve known quite of few players with CODE alts.

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/276 "2018-10-18T20:59:14Z")

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code literally gank anything they think they can get away with killing…

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**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/277 "2018-10-18T20:59:47Z")

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But when they kill something shiny they expect to get whats left.

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/278 "2018-10-18T21:01:59Z")

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doesnt everyone?

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**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/279 "2018-10-18T21:02:55Z")

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In high sec you can not reliably count on pvp to bring you loot, just a high percentage of the time.

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/280 "2018-10-18T21:03:21Z")

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anyway change is coming  
tl;dr  
in 5 years time when we have walking in stations…

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**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/281 "2018-10-18T21:04:16Z")

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The people that post on the forums are quite frankly in the minority most Eve players have no clue or don’t read/post on the forums. We are the minority ruling the majority. Cause and effect unfortunately the majority have no clue about either. I have no problem in high-sec because i research Eve online, reddit and webcasts including you-tube & twitch streams from the Meta Show Talking in Stations etc etc to Delonewolf. From reading posts on [MinerBumping.com](http://MinerBumping.com) damn i post minerbumping. Cloaking to the current war zones in null and sometimes wormhole space. Information is power, thats what gives us the advantage but the game is broken. The majority player has no idea any of this goes on. It has to change for the love of Eve it has to change.

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/282 "2018-10-18T21:05:38Z")

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mostly everyone i know says they avoid the forums and its pointless to post here.

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**Author:** ![Kieron\_VonDeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kieron_vondeux/32/38030_2.png) [@Kieron\_VonDeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kieron_VonDeux)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/283 "2018-10-18T21:14:03Z")

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> [@Lugburz](#):
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> mostly everyone i know says they avoid the forums and its pointless to post here.

That’s been the case since that one Dev made a Dev blog regarding a change that nobody liked in which he stated he got the idea from a post he read on the forums.

Now many players feel the need to make sure that Dev is aware that they don’t like certain ideas.

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**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/284 "2018-10-18T21:15:01Z")

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You cant please everyone.

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