# Change is coming **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 17, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800 "2018-10-17T15:40:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/693 "2018-12-07T15:45:36Z")
> [@Eric\_Kalfren](#): > > Very optimistic šŸ˜ƒ I would guess we will see the same reversal in stance with wardecs because there are probably just as much complaining about bumping and ganking. Itā€™s not my game either way I donā€™t squeal like a baby when ganked or do the ganking just here for the show. I had to scroll up just to remember what the heck this thread was about Yes EVERY form of PVP in high is harmful for CCPā€™s buisnessā€¦they already confessed thisā€¦you ignoring even this is not helpful at allā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Eric\_Kalfren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eric_kalfren/32/110261_2.png) [@Eric\_Kalfren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eric_Kalfren)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/694 "2018-12-07T15:56:38Z")
You and I will fundamentally disagree, and thatā€™s okay. You labeled me a dogmatist, itā€™s perfect. Without the PVP in high, no PVE in high - perfect solution imo ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/695 "2018-12-07T16:00:07Z")
> [@Eric\_Kalfren](#): > > You and I will fundamentally disagree, and thatā€™s okay. You labeled me a dogmatist, itā€™s perfect. Without the PVP in high, no PVE in high - perfect solution imo You even disagree what CCP already confessed? Well this will not change a jota of what has to be doneā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/696 "2018-12-07T16:03:14Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > Yes EVERY form of PVP in high is harmful for CCPā€™s buisness Thatā€™s the dumbest statement iā€™ve ever red on this forum. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/c/5/6c5dd2132a9cf74ace0ba6376a3872146c38acb5.jpeg "You are so dumb. You are really dumb, for real!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bobp5OHVsWY) You desperatly need a mining permit. ---
**Author:** ![Eric\_Kalfren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eric_kalfren/32/110261_2.png) [@Eric\_Kalfren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eric_Kalfren)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/697 "2018-12-07T16:05:04Z")
No, CCP has a history of talking out of both sides of itā€™s mouth. Which do you wanna believe is your own narrative. Iā€™ve always admired CCP because theyā€™ve gone against the grain that other MMOā€™s have and been their own thing. The wardec change is not a huge issue for me but I wonder whatā€™s next? Thinking out loud here I guess Iā€™m waiting for them to reverse what they (especially @CCP_Falcon) say about new players retention depending on being killed rather than ā€˜leveling their Raven and quittingā€™ ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/698 "2018-12-07T16:20:10Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > Yes EVERY form of PVP in high is harmful for CCPā€™s buisness Would you like to know what Eve looks like with EVERY form of PvP removed from hisec? Log on to the test server and look at the market; that is the true reality of the removal of EVERY type of PvP from hisec. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/699 "2018-12-07T16:21:28Z")
You were right Jonah, i gave him way too much credit. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/700 "2018-12-07T16:23:47Z")
heh IMHO heā€™s a prime example of what happens when you teach people what to think, not how to think. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/701 "2018-12-07T16:25:10Z")
Scary. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/702 "2018-12-07T16:26:40Z")
Iā€™ll give him this, his wilful ignorance and tactical stupidity games are tip top; even if it is unintended šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/703 "2018-12-07T16:27:36Z")
Iā€™d even risk a ā€œWorld classā€ level. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/704 "2018-12-07T16:29:25Z")
Itā€™s like someone mixed up some Veers with some Salvos, a sprinkling of Holey and a large pinch of arsehole to come up with him. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/705 "2018-12-07T16:32:23Z")
Hum, heā€™s something else, the ā€œEVERY form of PVPā€ thing is beyond everything else. Heā€™s a meme. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/706 "2018-12-07T16:35:25Z")
He doesnā€™t understand the game itself, so itā€™s hardly surprising that he doesnā€™t know what constitutes as PvP in Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/707 "2018-12-07T16:38:18Z")
My dear Balos, nothing says it better than a songā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Pix\_Severus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pix_severus/32/394032_2.png) [@Pix\_Severus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pix_Severus)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 3:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/708 "2018-12-08T03:17:24Z")
> [@How\_YaDoing](#): > > You guys got me, your are clearer better then me. Within EVE and even on these forums iā€™m out outmatched by your eye for detail. > Your cleverniss, iā€™m amazed. > > Iā€™m sorry that a carebear like me, came to your game. With a gameplay style not suited by the powers to be. Itā€™s clear that iā€™m not welcome, that carebear players like me are not welcome. And we will be utterly destroyed and hunted for fun. if we set foot, in your Eve world. > > Iā€™m not coming back to eve, i advise any carebear player to not come back to this game. We are not welcome. > > Eve was/is doing fine without us. > > Thanks for the enlightenment, before i made the stupid mistake subbing again. > > Fly save boys, have fun with these guys. ![dPXhUoT](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/2X/5/54585fa8da012ce2c1ada73ab492a71e424bc014.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/709 "2018-12-08T11:32:10Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > The white knights here will never accept that a change of course to a more mainstream approach is needed and will be executedā€¦ Dude, you have clearly no clue what white knighting is. Please, go away. ---
**Author:** ![How\_YaDoing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/how_yadoing/32/101846_2.png) [@How\_YaDoing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/How_YaDoing)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/710 "2018-12-08T12:44:38Z")
Hahahaha idiots, think i go that easy. Just wanted people that read this trash, see the true you. Look at your remarks, pathetic !! lol I would you guys to do the following, make a fleet together (Mortlake / Eric / Mevawhattafckidiotname/Jonah/pix) and listen to this song together, it tells you exactly how i feel and think about your kind. D12 - ā– ā– ā– ā–  on you Loving the tears in the announcements section, you babyā€™s should check it out. Your kind is crying their hearts out rofl ---
**Author:** ![Pix\_Severus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pix_severus/32/394032_2.png) [@Pix\_Severus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pix_Severus)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/711 "2018-12-08T13:26:05Z")
> [@How\_YaDoing](#): > > I would you guys to do the following, make a fleet together (Mortlake / Eric / Mevawhattafckidiotname/Jonah/pix) > and listen to this song together, it tells you exactly how i feel and think about your kind. > > D12 - ā– ā– ā– ā–  on you I donā€™t listen to childrenā€™s music. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800/712 "2018-12-08T14:39:45Z")
Itā€™s REALLY funny how the concrete heads even deny facts CCP already confessedā€¦ It shows how stucked they are in their own bubbleā€¦way to brainwashed to even admit to things thatā€™s outside of the bubbleā€¦ Itā€™s like the last days of the GDR or the soviet unionā€¦WE ARE RIGHT,nobody else,but the people are on the streets and demand freedomā€¦ [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800.md?page=33) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/change-is-coming/113800.md?page=35)