# Changes coming in August from Team Psycho Sisters

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-coming-in-august-from-team-psycho-sisters/11141>\
**Category:** Test Server Feedback\
**Tags:** singularity\
**Created:** [July 20, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-coming-in-august-from-team-psycho-sisters/11141 "2017-07-20T14:48:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prometius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/prometius/32/426288_2.png) [@Prometius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Prometius)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-coming-in-august-from-team-psycho-sisters/11141/61 "2017-07-20T17:23:00Z")

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so much 👍

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**Author:** ![Asher\_Elias](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/asher_elias/32/174729_2.png) [@Asher\_Elias](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Asher_Elias)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-coming-in-august-from-team-psycho-sisters/11141/62 "2017-07-20T17:34:30Z")

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Will there be any changes to the underlying code of combat probing so that probing works in large fights?

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**Author:** ![Chance\_Ravinne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chance_ravinne/32/423798_2.png) [@Chance\_Ravinne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chance_Ravinne)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-coming-in-august-from-team-psycho-sisters/11141/63 "2017-07-20T17:43:12Z")

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And with this change, the Summer of Rage ended.

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**Author:** ![Chance\_Ravinne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chance_ravinne/32/423798_2.png) [@Chance\_Ravinne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chance_Ravinne)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-coming-in-august-from-team-psycho-sisters/11141/64 "2017-07-20T17:44:18Z")

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How about it refreshes distance whenever you d-scan?

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**Author:** ![Rivr\_Luzade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rivr_luzade/32/311061_2.png) [@Rivr\_Luzade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rivr_Luzade)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-coming-in-august-from-team-psycho-sisters/11141/65 "2017-07-20T17:50:32Z")

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The beta map still shows the bookmark icons in the universe view, which is completely unnecessary and does nothing to make the map easier to read. No, turning them off is not an option because then they don’t show up in the solar system scroll level, where I actually want and expect to see them because they are very useful there.

The beta map still opens up upside down.

The beta map still has stars in the background which interfere with the readability of the actual cluster stars.

The beta map still shows the actual stars, which make the actual information indicators invisible when you zoom too far in.

Things like these might not have been touched yet, but it is important to remind people of these very important things so that people don’t forget to fix them.

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**Author:** ![Dominous\_Nolen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dominous_nolen/32/393106_2.png) [@Dominous\_Nolen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dominous_Nolen)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-coming-in-august-from-team-psycho-sisters/11141/66 "2017-07-20T17:56:23Z")

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Oh Oh Oh… And while I’m at it. please put back the “unknown wormhole” sig when you jump in a system from a wormhole

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**Author:** ![Rivr\_Luzade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rivr_luzade/32/311061_2.png) [@Rivr\_Luzade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rivr_Luzade)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-coming-in-august-from-team-psycho-sisters/11141/67 "2017-07-20T17:58:45Z")

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> [@Dominous\_Nolen](#):
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> Oh Oh Oh… And while I’m at it. please put back the “unknown wormhole” sig when you jump in a system from a wormhole

Absolutely. That’s a major advantage of the old scanning system to know if a bookmark is a WH or not.

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**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-coming-in-august-from-team-psycho-sisters/11141/68 "2017-07-20T18:09:11Z")

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> [@CCP\_Claymore](#):
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> Scanned signatures will now be persisted for the duration of a client session. They will no longer be cleared on a session change for example docking/undocking, jumping wormholes etc

BEST. CHANGE. EVER. :skiparrot:

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**Author:** ![OpusMagnum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/opusmagnum/32/423363_2.png) [@OpusMagnum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/OpusMagnum)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-coming-in-august-from-team-psycho-sisters/11141/69 "2017-07-20T18:11:32Z")

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Woot!

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**Author:** ![Lulu\_Lunette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lulu_lunette/32/133822_2.png) [@Lulu\_Lunette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lulu_Lunette)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-coming-in-august-from-team-psycho-sisters/11141/70 "2017-07-20T18:26:53Z")

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Thanks Psycho Sisters o7

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**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-coming-in-august-from-team-psycho-sisters/11141/71 "2017-07-20T19:03:36Z")

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😮 This is not there anymore? Very helpful if you forgot to bookmark the out hole. Otherwise you have to scan through dozen of sigs …

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**Author:** ![Dominous\_Nolen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dominous_nolen/32/393106_2.png) [@Dominous\_Nolen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dominous_Nolen)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-coming-in-august-from-team-psycho-sisters/11141/72 "2017-07-20T19:06:19Z")

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Nope, hasn’t been on the beta map and missing when it was transitioned to the current map release.

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**Author:** ![Veskin\_Sentinel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veskin_sentinel/32/506480_2.png) [@Veskin\_Sentinel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veskin_Sentinel)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-coming-in-august-from-team-psycho-sisters/11141/73 "2017-07-20T19:57:07Z")

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Great improvements indeed! Especially the persisting signatures. Thanks, team Psycho Sisters! \o/

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**Author:** ![Cismet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cismet/32/394370_2.png) [@Cismet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cismet)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-coming-in-august-from-team-psycho-sisters/11141/74 "2017-07-20T20:51:36Z")

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Oh CCP, you do love us? Scan signatures not persisting is one of the most frustrating things in the world for us Explorers.

The save location change is a nice QOL change too 😃

All the love.

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**Author:** ![Kazmani\_Vindictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kazmani_vindictus/32/120678_2.png) [@Kazmani\_Vindictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kazmani_Vindictus)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-coming-in-august-from-team-psycho-sisters/11141/75 "2017-07-20T20:58:43Z")

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On behalf of all of J-Space: we love you.

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**Author:** ![Petrified](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/petrified/32/243936_2.png) [@Petrified](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Petrified)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-coming-in-august-from-team-psycho-sisters/11141/76 "2017-07-20T21:34:51Z")

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> [@CCP\_Claymore](#):
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> Scanning:
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> - When using the “Save Location” option on entries in the Probe Scanner window, the signature ID will now be added automatically to the front of the bookmark name.
> - Scanned signatures will now be persisted for the duration of a client session. They will no longer be cleared on a session change for example docking/undocking, jumping wormholes etc

💕 Thank you… from the depths of my nerdy heart.

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**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-coming-in-august-from-team-psycho-sisters/11141/77 "2017-07-20T22:19:19Z")

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@CCP_Claymore

> [@CCP\_Claymore](#):
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> NPC Standings UI:
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> - There is a new Standings UI. Both tabs are currently active but we will disable the old one before releasing to TQ. We are not touching player to player standings UI at the moment.

Had a quick look at this.

What is the order supposed to be? Its not by standing and its not alphabetical? The ability to chose the order would be nice.

There is no mention of the effect of skills, rather than saying Amarr - 6 (raised from -10 by diplomacy) it just says Amarr -6.

Reducing info is not cool.

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**Author:** ![SnakeTheBest](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snakethebest/32/90432_2.png) [@SnakeTheBest](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SnakeTheBest)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-coming-in-august-from-team-psycho-sisters/11141/78 "2017-07-20T22:29:48Z")

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it could be like a check mark that say delete after X days

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**Author:** ![Kasia\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kasia_en_tilavine/32/9352_2.png) [@Kasia\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kasia_en_Tilavine)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-coming-in-august-from-team-psycho-sisters/11141/79 "2017-07-20T22:59:33Z")

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> [@CCP\_Claymore](#):
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> Beta Map:
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> - For some upcoming work we have had to dip into the Beta map code. More details to come once I format them and stick them up here.

Is this “i’m formatting now and will be posting later today”? or “I’ll format and post sometime in the next few days”? or “I’ll format and post sometime this summer about an undisclosed future release”? Because there is a ton of good feedback on the map. You guys have it so close to acceptable. Its ALMOST ready to ship. Just fix the information density issue and you’re golden.

[This](https://imgur.com/a/DaOMC) is a set of images that show in order:

A hot mess  
A lot less of a mess  
A drop down menu that would get you from mess to success  
Data that can’t be used fluidly because 1, 10, and 27 pilots in space all look the same  
Data that is so granular i can tell between 1, 3, 10, 11, and 27 pilots with just my peripheral vision.

When can we expect a discussion on the Beta Map?

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**Author:** ![Bienator\_II](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bienator_ii/32/12287_2.png) [@Bienator\_II](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bienator_II)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-coming-in-august-from-team-psycho-sisters/11141/80 "2017-07-20T23:35:57Z")

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persistence of scan results is amazing, the NPC standings UI is also nice - at least what i saw so far.

now if you could make it persist too if you have a short disconnect it would be perfect. But i can see that this would be a more difficult task since it is a completely new session.

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