# Changes in the energy consumption of Ammar laser ships are needed **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [February 13, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-in-the-energy-consumption-of-ammar-laser-ships-are-needed/439514 "2024-02-13T13:27:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![James\_Baboli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_baboli/32/408702_2.png) [@James\_Baboli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Baboli)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-in-the-energy-consumption-of-ammar-laser-ships-are-needed/439514/144 "2024-02-27T00:52:09Z")
You don’t. But I’ve proven that you are trying to make arguments that the cap is a major problem when your fits destroyed are seriously suboptimal. We can point to several ships using lasers that are at or above par in pvp and used heavily in PVE. I’ve even put up a suggestion about fixing one of the problems you named in a way which minimally hurts the overall game balance, specifically tachs not fitting. You just keep repeating the same point without engaging with any of the discussion attempting to figure out why or how big a cut or what besides “they make the ship unstable” is your reasoning. ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 4:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-in-the-energy-consumption-of-ammar-laser-ships-are-needed/439514/145 "2024-02-27T04:53:40Z")
Why in the world are you guys still wasting your time with this dude? It’s like talking to a tree at some point. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-in-the-energy-consumption-of-ammar-laser-ships-are-needed/439514/146 "2024-02-27T06:22:04Z")
> [@Cyberius\_Mnemon](#): > > The subject of my message is that it is necessary to reduce the energy consumption of laser turrets on Ammar ships I know, which is why it’s surprising a smart guy like you still won’t „scroll up“ to respond to my post containing [rebalanced energy consumption screenshots](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-in-the-energy-consumption-of-ammar-laser-ships-are-needed/439514/86) you requested of me, even when I’ve [politely reminded](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-in-the-energy-consumption-of-ammar-laser-ships-are-needed/439514/100) you [multiple times](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-in-the-energy-consumption-of-ammar-laser-ships-are-needed/439514/126). This being the _third_ time. I’m starting to think there’s a pattern of you not being a smart guy. In this forum thread, I have already answered your question. If you can’t scroll the mouse wheel and read, that’s your problem. Don’t shift your problems from a sore head to a healthy one. And don’t forget, you’re not everything. Look, let’s get this straight. Personally, I associate you as a person with very low mental abilities, and maybe even worse. Maybe I’m wrong, and you’re a very smart person in life, but I personally associate you with exactly that, with all the consequences that follow from this. I have already answered your questions many times and I see no point in repeating myself, it just won’t do anything. If you cannot read, understand, or comprehend what I have written, if you agree or disagree with what I have written, these are purely your problems, not mine. ---
**Author:** ![Cyberius\_Mnemon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cyberius_mnemon/32/386987_2.png) [@Cyberius\_Mnemon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cyberius_Mnemon)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-in-the-energy-consumption-of-ammar-laser-ships-are-needed/439514/147 "2024-02-27T07:16:54Z")
I gave a similar answer to James Babolin. [Changes in the energy consumption of Ammar laser ships are needed - #141 by Cyberius\_Mnemon](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-in-the-energy-consumption-of-ammar-laser-ships-are-needed/439514/141) ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-in-the-energy-consumption-of-ammar-laser-ships-are-needed/439514/148 "2024-02-27T07:25:29Z")
Woosh ---
**Author:** ![0ptimus\_Swine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0ptimus_swine/32/385816_2.png) [@0ptimus\_Swine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0ptimus_Swine)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-in-the-energy-consumption-of-ammar-laser-ships-are-needed/439514/149 "2024-02-27T09:04:37Z")
They’re the only weapons that don’t reload properly. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-in-the-energy-consumption-of-ammar-laser-ships-are-needed/439514/150 "2024-02-27T09:19:47Z")
Not really, I just want to help you identifying the ‘problem’, because so far nobody can see it but you. And that is a strong hint that it might not actually exist. ---
**Author:** ![Mephiztopheleze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mephiztopheleze/32/381036_2.png) [@Mephiztopheleze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mephiztopheleze)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-in-the-energy-consumption-of-ammar-laser-ships-are-needed/439514/151 "2024-02-27T20:21:17Z")
Entropic Disintegrators also switch ammo immediately. ---
**Author:** ![0ptimus\_Swine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0ptimus_swine/32/385816_2.png) [@0ptimus\_Swine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0ptimus_Swine)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2024, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-in-the-energy-consumption-of-ammar-laser-ships-are-needed/439514/152 "2024-02-29T00:35:41Z")
Haha, I don’t think you know what I mean, I have only ever had trouble firing because of lasers crystals not loading properly. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/changes-in-the-energy-consumption-of-ammar-laser-ships-are-needed/439514/153 "2024-05-29T00:36:20Z")
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