# Chaos Era Continues - Cyno Update **URL:** \ **Category:** Upcoming Features & Changes\ **Tags:** null-sec, low-sec, pvp\ **Created:** [August 14, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197 "2019-08-14T16:46:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![TehCloud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tehcloud/32/138643_2.png) [@TehCloud](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TehCloud)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/481 "2019-08-14T19:03:46Z")
I absolutely love anything that nerfs instant travel in this game. But I think there should be more to it than Force Recon and Black Ops. How about allowing T1 BS to be used as well but giving Cynos a spool up time of 60 seconds (down to 40 seconds with skills maybe) until the cyno becomes active and the beacon is created. This way Battleships, a shipclass that needs a ton of love, will have a new role, while at the same time making it impossible to instantly WTFPWN anyone. Putting a damp on instant responses will make fights happen more often, since you actually have a chance to shut down enemy reinforcements before they block out the sun while also allowing for some time to disengage from a fight that is going to become too blobby. ---
**Author:** ![Jinto\_Lafiel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jinto_lafiel/32/388999_2.png) [@Jinto\_Lafiel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jinto_Lafiel)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/482 "2019-08-14T19:03:58Z")
Make sure you are buying you skill injectors in Tranquility Trading Tower!!! Keep buying you are all making me rich… I will need to be for all they cyno ships im going to get poped ---
**Author:** ![Lido\_Seahawk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lido_seahawk/32/477776_2.png) [@Lido\_Seahawk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lido_Seahawk)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/484 "2019-08-14T19:04:16Z")
I don’t get it. Just a raggedy ole JF pilot here. For some reason out of the blue I am now faced with a pretty significant time sink to train into Recons, and then spend a significant amount of ISK, for me, to do something I can already do. Because I didn’t spend enough time and skill points training into Jump Freighters in the first place, right? And now I’m being forced to fly a ship I really have no interest in using for its intended purpose. Hmm. Not a fan of this, guys. ---
**Author:** ![tanel27\_stefan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tanel27_stefan/32/494875_2.png) [@tanel27\_stefan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tanel27_stefan)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/485 "2019-08-14T19:04:36Z")
already exaggerated too much … for nothing … you took local you took … all … now you want the world to pay bills , already exaggerated maximum … out of 4 accounts I stayed at 2 now remain 0 ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/486 "2019-08-14T19:04:43Z")
> [@Ladett](#): > > As you can imagine the player base for this game has aged over the years, Players get families , which means reduced playing times, which means they choose which games they can play carefully. This is going to kill off a lot of veteran players. I’m certainly not risking a 300mil ship never mind the fittings every time I want to jump a ship. From now on you will see a lot more people actually giving up, throwing in the towl and selling their accounts on Ebay. I’m sorry to say CCP but if you do this… you may as well close down the servers and kiss good bye to your loyal player base. Players with reduced playtimes will have to play the game differently than how they were used to. If it means less endless defense fleets and an actual obliteration of a group’s assets in Null (something Eve has really never had so far), I think it will be for the better. HS and Wh Raids into Null will be more frequent and have a more lasting effect on umbrella groups, which, imo, is something the game needs to refresh its static sov space and give a chance to emerging groups. ---
**Author:** ![Lee\_Apollo\_Adama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lee_apollo_adama/32/272819_2.png) [@Lee\_Apollo\_Adama](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lee_Apollo_Adama)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/487 "2019-08-14T19:05:35Z")
Try Naval Action. Its same like EvE, but with Sail-Ships (around 1700s) instead of Space-Ships. And if you sunk, you lost your Ship and everithing you cargo with you at this point. Items/Ships in Ports are Safe. Same as in EvE… ---
**Author:** ![Sadism\_Evolved](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sadism_evolved/32/385705_2.png) [@Sadism\_Evolved](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sadism_Evolved)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/488 "2019-08-14T19:05:39Z")
Quite apart from the change being nuts, introducing them in September is also an insult to those with mutiple cyno characters on a single account. The train time to covert ops + cyno V means that to have those characters ready for ‘September’ they either have to inject or buy multiple character training. A cynic would say that someone wants to sell more plex. ---
**Author:** ![Atheos\_Athonille](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/atheos_athonille/32/305205_2.png) [@Atheos\_Athonille](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Atheos_Athonille)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/489 "2019-08-14T19:05:57Z")
Because nobody will be able to make a proper response fleet on the defensive side. All Force Recon’s on the defense will just get blapped immediately, and by the time there is any proper reaction the offensive will have already cleared the grid. ---
**Author:** ![Frothgar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/frothgar/32/372505_2.png) [@Frothgar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Frothgar)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/491 "2019-08-14T19:07:24Z")
Enforcer as well? (Is a force recon) ---
**Author:** ![MegaLuter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/megaluter/32/491908_2.png) [@MegaLuter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MegaLuter)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/492 "2019-08-14T19:07:44Z")
I’m tired of the CCP, and asked in support where the button to unsubscribe with a refund money. ---
**Author:** ![Jinto\_Lafiel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jinto_lafiel/32/388999_2.png) [@Jinto\_Lafiel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jinto_Lafiel)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/493 "2019-08-14T19:07:46Z")
> [@Lido\_Seahawk](#): > > I don’t get it. Just a raggedy ole JF pilot here. For some reason out of the blue I am now faced with a pretty significant time sink to train into Recons, and then spend a significant amount of ISK, for me, to do something I can already do. Because I didn’t spend enough time and skill points training into Jump Freighters in the first place, right? > > And now I’m being forced to fly a ship I really have no interest in using for its intended purpose. Hmm. > > Not a fan of this, guys. Well you are not playing at a high enough level (per ccp) They want to make it HARD for Veterans. Maybe go backwards and start flying 50 T1 haulers and that would work right??? ---
**Author:** ![Tialano\_Utrigas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tialano_utrigas/32/422785_2.png) [@Tialano\_Utrigas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tialano_Utrigas)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/494 "2019-08-14T19:08:06Z")
It sounds like you bought your carrier expecting it to be a big I WIN button. The reality is that before those nerfs they were buffed to obscene proportions and they are now correcting their mistakes. A capital has no counter to small ships by design. You are not expected to be able to swat anything that comes your way without support to pin the fuckers down. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/495 "2019-08-14T19:08:07Z")
> [@Dimitryy](#): > > But no, in all seriousness, bring it on. If we can’t adapt to this we didn’t deserve to be in null in the first place. The game needs more people with your mindset. ---
**Author:** ![Dimitryy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dimitryy/32/416221_2.png) [@Dimitryy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dimitryy)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/496 "2019-08-14T19:08:08Z")
Ladett, do you really think that CCP needs to give you a way to deliver your capital nutsack into people’s faces for free? Did you consider that maybe people are ready to leave the game because any random ship they engage can, and often does, have a cyno? As someone who regularly drops with a celestis that costs like 20mil… this is a needed change. It can always be revisited for exact shiptypes/etc, but the idea is that now you have to THINK about deploying caps, not just slame YES as long as it looks like the other guy doesn’t have any. ---
**Author:** ![ArmyOfMe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armyofme/32/514222_2.png) [@ArmyOfMe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ArmyOfMe)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/497 "2019-08-14T19:09:18Z")
> [@MegaLuter](#): > > I’m tired of the CCP, and asked in support where the button to unsubscribe with a refund money. Why would you get a refund? ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/498 "2019-08-14T19:09:22Z")
> [@Atheos\_Athonille](#): > > All Force Recon’s on the defense will just get blapped immediately Nah. Some of us remember how to do combat drops, thanks. Institutional memory’s a wonderful part of organizations. ---
**Author:** ![5tann](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/5tann/32/382302_2.png) [@5tann](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/5tann)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/499 "2019-08-14T19:09:23Z")
It should be only JF can light cynos… ---
**Author:** ![ArmyOfMe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armyofme/32/514222_2.png) [@ArmyOfMe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ArmyOfMe)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/500 "2019-08-14T19:09:54Z")
Now thats an idea i could support 😂 ---
**Author:** ![MegaLuter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/megaluter/32/491908_2.png) [@MegaLuter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MegaLuter)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/501 "2019-08-14T19:10:15Z")
> [@ArmyOfMe](#): > > Why would you get a refund? are you ccp? not? well, then pass by ---
**Author:** ![Dimitryy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dimitryy/32/416221_2.png) [@Dimitryy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dimitryy)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/502 "2019-08-14T19:10:52Z")
Xnoun, if your only playstyle was swinging your capital dick in people’s faces with zero effort, the game won’t be sorry to see you go. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197.md?page=23) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197.md?page=25)