# Chaos Era Continues - Cyno Update

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197>\
**Category:** Upcoming Features & Changes\
**Tags:** null-sec, low-sec, pvp\
**Created:** [August 14, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197 "2019-08-14T16:46:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 36

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**Author:** ![Khan\_matar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khan_matar/32/310801_2.png) [@Khan\_matar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khan_matar)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/731 "2019-08-14T21:37:30Z")

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y’all with the big ships could share the burden of lighting cynos with other folks  
let others in on this part of gameplay

too many changes may seem overwhelming  
i’m unsure of huge ship mechanics  
sharing the risk  
a little will make for fun more stuff to do for operations pilots  
adaptation is part of the eve experience  
i embrace the change look forward to working with it  
will fleet nav ships be next?  
more ways to move into the top tier  
clever pilots will cooperate on this one  
find ways to get you moved around  
interesting move could help to have a way to share bm’s in a fleet like a scuba diveboard  
a way to communicate a route in fleet  
help coordinate jumps etc

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**Author:** ![Benaf\_Christacer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/benaf_christacer/32/154486_2.png) [@Benaf\_Christacer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Benaf_Christacer)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/732 "2019-08-14T21:37:57Z")

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I’m confused. First you claim that Big Groups need to be thinned, then you propose changes like this. Besides making content harder to create and breaking a part of EVE that has been around for the vast majority of the game, this funnels people even more in to major null groups. If your goal is to balance something like the Goon’s Safe Cyno fleet, then remove their ability to be fit on industrials or something. Maybe just make cyno’s a single use module like hull energizers, and turn them into an isk sink, but restricting them to specific hulls is just content limitation. If your goal is honestly just to cause chaos, do it another way that doesn’t make creating content even harder. Nobody can deny that some of the best fights in this game occur over someone baiting a Cyno, and throwing it on a ship that is instantly removed by 10 muninns is just goofy. On a side note, I’ve literally never heard someone complain about them. Theres a lot of places you guys can take your frustration out, but you should leave core mechanics of the game alone. People that are worth more than 10-15B still want a reason to log in to the game too.

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**Author:** ![Valkorsia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valkorsia/32/185713_2.png) [@Valkorsia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valkorsia)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/733 "2019-08-14T21:38:52Z")

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Enjoy the unsubs CCP. Although, killing this game at this stage of Eve is probably the best idea. It’s a pile of unfixable ■■■■■■■■.

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**Author:** ![Abrams\_Jasen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abrams_jasen/32/147606_2.png) [@Abrams\_Jasen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abrams_Jasen)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/734 "2019-08-14T21:39:50Z")

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lmao! you’re funny guy.

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**Author:** ![Abrams\_Jasen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abrams_jasen/32/147606_2.png) [@Abrams\_Jasen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abrams_Jasen)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/735 "2019-08-14T21:40:07Z")

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bye!!! \<3

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**Author:** ![Senor\_Retardo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/senor_retardo/32/128543_2.png) [@Senor\_Retardo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Senor_Retardo)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/736 "2019-08-14T21:40:19Z")

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Ahahha, pathetic beggar

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**Author:** ![Apo\_Lamperouge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/apo_lamperouge/32/420136_2.png) [@Apo\_Lamperouge](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Apo_Lamperouge)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/737 "2019-08-14T21:40:31Z")

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> [@AMARR\_KUNNNI](#):
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> so I train another alt to not enjoy the game more I think not I not create more alts just to try and enjoy a GAME

Not gonna burst your bubble buddy, but all capital pilots have or should have multiple support toons. If you are just running your one hulk in a high sec belt you have nothing to worry about. But if you are running a rorq or 3 and some hulks or a carrier and ratting, you’re playing russian roulette to begin with. You have to be self-sufficient or you are just a burden on your corp/alliance. Relying on other people to pull your sorry butt out of the fire when you get dropped on by a wh gang is just pathetic. If you dont have an alt scanning wormholes, alts in surrounding systems as eyes etc then you’re doing null sec wrong. Sure it requires a lot more work now, I’ll give you that much. But jesus man, have some accountability for yourself.

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**Author:** ![Sfeed\_Olgidar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sfeed_olgidar/32/133189_2.png) [@Sfeed\_Olgidar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sfeed_Olgidar)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/738 "2019-08-14T21:40:41Z")

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Now nullsek is turning from a rich, dangerous region into a poor and dangerous region. And hisec get deeper.  
It’s horrible!  
But they don’t listen to us and ignore us!

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**Author:** ![Abrams\_Jasen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abrams_jasen/32/147606_2.png) [@Abrams\_Jasen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abrams_Jasen)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/739 "2019-08-14T21:41:25Z")

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let the hate flow through you.

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**Author:** ![slavestormborn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/slavestormborn/32/154501_2.png) [@slavestormborn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/slavestormborn)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/740 "2019-08-14T21:41:28Z")

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“Once again we see the sandbox get smaller. Instead of adding more ways to disrupt cynos, we get this drek.” Someone said that and surely is right, look at the way you making even more difficult content/fights to happen. The same way requires cyno to defend, the same to attack, that slim 10secs window that your cyno will last won’t be enough to drop, specially with servers conditions like we all know…

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**Author:** ![Depopulo\_Denuo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/depopulo_denuo/32/154488_2.png) [@Depopulo\_Denuo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Depopulo_Denuo)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/741 "2019-08-14T21:42:11Z")

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they are doing it all to appease the wormholers. after all they play in wormholes also.

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**Author:** ![Abrams\_Jasen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abrams_jasen/32/147606_2.png) [@Abrams\_Jasen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abrams_Jasen)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/742 "2019-08-14T21:42:15Z")

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you can have pvp all you want just no more cap drops like a bunch of cucks on a subcap fleet. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Grath\_Telkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grath_telkin/32/278234_2.png) [@Grath\_Telkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grath_Telkin)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/743 "2019-08-14T21:42:23Z")

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Do you literally not understand how the CSM works? They have literally ZERO say in game development. What on earth made you think they did???

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**Author:** ![Saeger1737](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saeger1737/32/459629_2.png) [@Saeger1737](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saeger1737)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/744 "2019-08-14T21:43:06Z")

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Your stupid too

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**Author:** ![Abrams\_Jasen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abrams_jasen/32/147606_2.png) [@Abrams\_Jasen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abrams_Jasen)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/745 "2019-08-14T21:43:44Z")

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Great job @CCP_Rise! Love the changes that have been coming out ever since you guys decided to black out null! Been having a blast as a small group! keep up the great work!

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**Author:** ![Grath\_Telkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grath_telkin/32/278234_2.png) [@Grath\_Telkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grath_Telkin)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/746 "2019-08-14T21:43:45Z")

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Remember that time fondly

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**Author:** ![Abrams\_Jasen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abrams_jasen/32/147606_2.png) [@Abrams\_Jasen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abrams_Jasen)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/747 "2019-08-14T21:44:04Z")

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You’re\*

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**Author:** ![Khan\_matar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khan_matar/32/310801_2.png) [@Khan\_matar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khan_matar)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/748 "2019-08-14T21:44:25Z")

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sharing the capital content making it easier to concert in space

seems reasonable  
very narrow alts limits gameplay for others  
think a dune carry-all and the ops around it  
fly with friends  
🙂

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**Author:** ![Raj\_Nakrar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/raj_nakrar/32/382767_2.png) [@Raj\_Nakrar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Raj_Nakrar)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/749 "2019-08-14T21:44:59Z")

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oh they’re banking subs won’t, cause “eve players are resilient”, so it follows an eve player will eat anything that ccp throws at him.

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**Author:** ![Khan\_matar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khan_matar/32/310801_2.png) [@Khan\_matar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khan_matar)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/750 "2019-08-14T21:46:52Z")

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how about fleeting up sharing content

with newer players  
teaming up for fun

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