# Chaos Era Continues - Cyno Update

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197>\
**Category:** Upcoming Features & Changes\
**Tags:** null-sec, low-sec, pvp\
**Created:** [August 14, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197 "2019-08-14T16:46:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 40

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**Author:** ![xOmGx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xomgx/32/242854_2.png) [@xOmGx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xOmGx)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/811 "2019-08-14T22:32:25Z")

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Want kill a capital get your own caputals to the field

Caps shoud be boosted its is THE ENDGAME ships of EvE they SHOULD be powerful

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**Author:** ![RedHand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/redhand/32/138034_2.png) [@RedHand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RedHand)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/812 "2019-08-14T22:32:52Z")

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Hardly ‘favour’ wormhole space - just make nullsec feel a little more like home for us wormholers 🙂

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**Author:** ![Poppie\_McBonar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/poppie_mcbonar/32/148154_2.png) [@Poppie\_McBonar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Poppie_McBonar)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/813 "2019-08-14T22:34:35Z")

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Speaking as an avid Titan pilot / Super pilot, I am pleasantly pleased with this announcement for once. Nerf the problem not the ships. I like it! Keep it up CCP.

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**Author:** ![Jordan\_Clarksonton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jordan_clarksonton/32/384601_2.png) [@Jordan\_Clarksonton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jordan_Clarksonton)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/814 "2019-08-14T22:34:39Z")

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CCP Thinking … “Let’s make a _small_ change”  
Lets reduce cyno’s from 400 ships to 8  
I’m sure that is considered small right?

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**Author:** ![Jameson2011](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jameson2011/32/219078_2.png) [@Jameson2011](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jameson2011)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/815 "2019-08-14T22:34:41Z")

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Sandboxes have no endgame. It’s in the name.

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**Author:** ![Walter\_Woodiaz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/walter_woodiaz/32/153466_2.png) [@Walter\_Woodiaz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Walter_Woodiaz)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/816 "2019-08-14T22:36:45Z")

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Okay. Now CCP is destroying Rorqs now

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**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/817 "2019-08-14T22:37:01Z")

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I love carebear tear’s \<3 especially when that carebear has no idea what they are talking about :D.

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**Author:** ![Trustworthy\_Seller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trustworthy_seller/32/154524_2.png) [@Trustworthy\_Seller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trustworthy_Seller)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/818 "2019-08-14T22:37:12Z")

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For starters I agree with this idea set, its too easy to save ships under umbrellas, light cyno when inhib starts anchoring have 10minutes to get on grid with enough power fast enough to kill jammer and save ship.

CCP often prides EVE on its large scale fights… things like B-R or X47, whats CCPs plan on facilitating these fights specifically when the defender would rather the attacker doesnt cyno in… getting 200 titans on grid to start a fight isn’t easy or fast.

Could we suggest a monitor like solution?  
For example most large scale eve showdowns have taken place on grid with a TCU, TBU, station, keepstar.  
A Ship that can only light a cyno if its within 500km of a structure?  
EHP of a Supercarrier, can store enough ozone for 1-2 cycles depending on skills Cant be targeted by DDs, can not fit guns, paints, or tackle. Just a special cyno that can only be lit within 500km of Citadels, Sovereignty structures, and Planetary Customs offices.

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**Author:** ![Walter\_H\_Eisenberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/walter_h_eisenberg/32/154529_2.png) [@Walter\_H\_Eisenberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Walter_H_Eisenberg)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/819 "2019-08-14T22:38:12Z")

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This is absolute horse$&%#.

Just come out and say that you’d like for Rorqual pilots to quit the game and you never want a dime of their money ever again.

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**Author:** ![Jayne\_Vera](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayne_vera/32/121338_2.png) [@Jayne\_Vera](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayne_Vera)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/820 "2019-08-14T22:38:48Z")

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Everyone that’s unsubbing - please contract me your stuff

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**Author:** ![Vaille\_Chanlin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vaille_chanlin/32/145968_2.png) [@Vaille\_Chanlin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vaille_Chanlin)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/821 "2019-08-14T22:39:03Z")

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a much needed balance pass. I can’t wait for this update to the game. Might make battleship fleets a thing again and definitely nerfing the cap umbrellas. Thanks CCP!

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**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/822 "2019-08-14T22:39:09Z")

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> [@Arrendis](#):
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> Oh my god, you’ve just made Delve so amazingly safe it’s hilarious. This is gonna be awesome.

Not really, it will be possible to chain CovOps \> Blops \> Dread bomb. And whatever Recon/Blops is guarding Rorq fleet or ratting supers is more prone to be Alpha’d before help jumps in compared to Rorqs and supers lighting cynos themselves.

But yes - it will be interesting.

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**Author:** ![Jameson2011](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jameson2011/32/219078_2.png) [@Jameson2011](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jameson2011)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/823 "2019-08-14T22:39:19Z")

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No, to me please I’m nicer

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**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/824 "2019-08-14T22:39:48Z")

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400 was already broken to begin with 8 is something it should have been from the start thou.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/825 "2019-08-14T22:40:49Z")

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My alt will not need to fly a Force Recon Ship.

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**Author:** ![Vaille\_Chanlin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vaille_chanlin/32/145968_2.png) [@Vaille\_Chanlin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vaille_Chanlin)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/826 "2019-08-14T22:40:53Z")

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Broadcast for reps CCP Rise, us pvpers got you bro.

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**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/827 "2019-08-14T22:41:26Z")

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There is no one ship best in slot for all situations, all ships have their place those that are strong in some areas are terrible in other area’s, like you wouldn’t bring super carrier’s to kill a fleet of 400 interceptors.

Mobility / high tracking /low sig \<------------------------------------\> slow / brute force / low tracking

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**Author:** ![Vasama](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vasama/32/417325_2.png) [@Vasama](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vasama)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/828 "2019-08-14T22:41:47Z")

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Real issue is that not any one know how this changes the game. Most folks just see this as the way they have been, mostly solo, played the game don’t work anymore. Adaptions and counter adaptations will be followed in next year or so. Anyhow I see the change more as more hindering the multiboxing solo game and promoting real team work.

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**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/829 "2019-08-14T22:45:33Z")

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@CCP_Rise @CCP_Falcon @CCP_Fozzie  
Some posters above already said that, but

**add ability to fit normal Cynos to covert sub of T3Cs.**

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**Author:** ![Durzo\_Kado](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/durzo_kado/32/154525_2.png) [@Durzo\_Kado](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Durzo_Kado)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/830 "2019-08-14T22:45:43Z")

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I may be missing the mark here, and it may already have been stated earlier in other posts, but this seems to be intended as yet another way to limit Null Sec players earning enough Isk to Sub characters. Sure it will effect cap deployments for PvP as well, but one of the biggest impacts will be to umbrella fleets that protect ratters and miners. I think CCP may also want to understand what attracts players to Eve Online (Whether they stay for long or not is another issue). I know from speaking to a lot of players that it was reading about huge space battles occuring in Null sec, thousands of players and ships fighting each other. A change like this could seriously impact that kind of action and advertising. With the likely decrease in subs because of this change, along with the reduction in new players due to nothing interesting grabbing the headlines we could be seeing a decline in the game… (I know, Eve’s Dying!)

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