# Chaos Era Continues - Cyno Update **URL:** \ **Category:** Upcoming Features & Changes\ **Tags:** null-sec, low-sec, pvp\ **Created:** [August 14, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197 "2019-08-14T16:46:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/871 "2019-08-14T23:12:04Z")
@CCP_Rise Might be worth considering reducing cyno duration timer and Recon blue print material requirements a bit, it could help balancing it. But otherwise great change! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Natalia\_Kitar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalia_kitar/32/150496_2.png) [@Natalia\_Kitar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalia_Kitar)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/872 "2019-08-14T23:13:22Z")
the training speed isn’t ok, who the hell wants to skill 2 months for one ship that’s not even good… How long do u need to skill for a titan, not just to sit in to it. Then they are wondering, about people who don’t wanna play the game. If I didn’t move on my 3rd day to the Null guess wouldn’t play the game anymore to, but I did and that’s the reason I do have 10 months later a nyx pilot soon a titan pilot and +180b isk in my wallet (networth of 250b+). For me the game was fun, leav that High-sec ■■■■ and have some content at Null. If someone does ask me, they should make Null-sec everywhere, the entire game should be based and run like Null. I don’t understand people who are at the High-sec or Low-sec what the hell are u doing there, Null is much more safe there are people with caps , people with money who can help u and will help u. So instant of making something of ur time in the game they spend time at the forum crying to ccp about null-sec and how they make a lot of isk there + when they try to kill them titans jump on them. ---
**Author:** ![Nakranoth\_Milesios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nakranoth_milesios/32/154550_2.png) [@Nakranoth\_Milesios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nakranoth_Milesios)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/873 "2019-08-14T23:15:41Z")
uh… that just effs the little guys more… how about cut the cyno time down then if yall going to do that. its jsut me out there. tryin to move my ■■■■. ---
**Author:** ![Lilith\_Sternin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilith_sternin/32/146971_2.png) [@Lilith\_Sternin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lilith_Sternin)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/874 "2019-08-14T23:15:56Z")
All I see is CCP trying to kill the game…bummer. Still wondering why you even have industry still in this game since it’s obvious you you don’t want anyone doing it. SMH… ---
**Author:** ![Chou\_Saru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chou_saru/32/154289_2.png) [@Chou\_Saru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chou_Saru)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/875 "2019-08-14T23:17:29Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/b/0b83d2dcb46e4f110572870a6931267a63d163a3.png) When the Dev’s post is flagged, you know the community is unhappy ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/876 "2019-08-14T23:18:38Z")
Not everyone enjoys the game the same as everyone else. Their sums must add up or why would they wish to make such changes? ---
**Author:** ![Nepsy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nepsy/32/302840_2.png) [@Nepsy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nepsy)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/877 "2019-08-14T23:19:17Z")
Since JF can now jump to covert ops cynos, would they be bridgable by cov-ops battleships? ---
**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/878 "2019-08-14T23:19:22Z")
It literally takes a **single** jackass (with adequate forum clout, however the hell that’s measured, but any regular poster will qualify) clicking the flag button to accomplish that. ---
**Author:** ![Chou\_Saru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chou_saru/32/154289_2.png) [@Chou\_Saru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chou_Saru)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/879 "2019-08-14T23:20:39Z")
It requires more than one person to get a post flagged. ---
**Author:** ![RedHand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/redhand/32/138034_2.png) [@RedHand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RedHand)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/880 "2019-08-14T23:20:49Z")
Recons are good. Recons are even great, in the right situation. A good Arazu or Rapier pilot can be unbelievably impactful. The Pilgrim is great in small skirmishes and in wormhole space. The Falcon is a bit of a sad situation because of the ECM changes, but otherwise you’re skilling into a particularly effective ship in the right hands which also happens to be a cyno-capable ship. ---
**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/881 "2019-08-14T23:22:04Z")
No, it doesn’t. Watch this (sorry). ---
**Author:** ![RedHand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/redhand/32/138034_2.png) [@RedHand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RedHand)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/882 "2019-08-14T23:22:30Z")
Beautiful… ---
**Author:** ![bigbillthaboss3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bigbillthaboss3/32/260923_2.png) [@bigbillthaboss3](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bigbillthaboss3)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/883 "2019-08-14T23:23:52Z")
Hey @CCP_Rise - instead of listening to these screeching wanna-be elite pvper’s who are essentially asking you to induce a coma on ships in order for them to get kills ~~because they are so incredibly awful at this game and unwilling to put forth the faintest of effort for killing a ship~~ how about you consult the guys who use capitals on a daily basis and ask them what they would do to balance the capital meta? I bet… I’m going out on a limb here… they have some REALLY good ideas that won’t run off 50% of your playerbase - and people may even like it!! You guys are barely **BARELY** listening to the people who know what can be done, and fully understand the back end dev work needed, and are instead listening to feedback from people who know a single playstyle and have only played said playstyle and are still so bad at it they need major nerfs to be effective. Take a second, pull back a bit, and ask the broader - _ironically now more quiet_ - player base what they think could be done. You guys are listening to like 700 dudes, the same loud mouths on reddit that upvote brigade their terrible ~_elite pvp_~ ideas, and alienating a massive group of players. There is an entire list of events that play out from this that happens over week 1, week 2, month 1, month 2, etc… timeline I believe you guys aren’t considering. Every cause has an effect, and the people you keep listening to lack the foresight to tell you what’s sitting 1 foot in front of them. ---
**Author:** ![Chou\_Saru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chou_saru/32/154289_2.png) [@Chou\_Saru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chou_Saru)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/884 "2019-08-14T23:25:02Z")
Point taken… Haha that’s pretty dumb ---
**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/885 "2019-08-14T23:25:27Z")
No argument from me, there. ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/886 "2019-08-14T23:26:50Z")
> [@bigbillthaboss3](#): > > how about you consult the guys who use capitals on a daily basis and ask them what they would do to balance the capital meta? I bet… I’m going out on a limb here… they have some REALLY good ideas that won’t run off 50% of your playerbase - and people may even like it!! Beware of what you are asking for. For i have seen the member of a group that massively uses supers (@Arrendis) to voice an opinion that nothing short of completely removing them would fix the situation. ---
**Author:** ![Natalia\_Kitar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalia_kitar/32/150496_2.png) [@Natalia\_Kitar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalia_Kitar)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/887 "2019-08-14T23:27:41Z")
Why, to sell the game for more money… That’s why… I didn’t saw that numbers dropping, people are less active after the changes… even does pvp freaks have nothing to do, since people are not undocking. I did talk to a guy yesterday who is really good at pvp, he told me that he is killing like 30 to 40% less since the blackout. So what did the blackout do, nothing. What will the cyno change do, nothing to big groups. They will still drop a capital ship at u, at the moment u did tackle something that’s worth B of isk u can expect more then one capital ship being at worp to ur location. Btw they just want people who do have supers to have a alt sitting there to open the cyno if he doesn’t there will be a permanent cyno up at the keepstar at the system so he will get help at one or the other way. ---
**Author:** ![bigbillthaboss3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bigbillthaboss3/32/260923_2.png) [@bigbillthaboss3](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/bigbillthaboss3)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/888 "2019-08-14T23:27:44Z")
> [@Mar5hy](#): > > Why CCP why can I not click a button for 100 man support in an instant. WAhhhhhhhhhhh. I’m QUITTING like all the people who quit with blackout. > > Wait. Revenue went up? More players joined. Oh ■■■■… > > I LOVE YOU GUYZZZZZ The irony of this post is incredible. ---
**Author:** ![Inslander\_Wessette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/inslander_wessette/32/252904_2.png) [@Inslander\_Wessette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Inslander_Wessette)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/889 "2019-08-14T23:27:55Z")
go â– â– â– â–  yourself and your game . Got my free time to spend with other games where its not a chore and i need to have 4 accounts or be in a null bloc for everything i do in eve . ---
**Author:** ![RedHand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/redhand/32/138034_2.png) [@RedHand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RedHand)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/890 "2019-08-14T23:30:37Z")
Capital proliferation and ease of use have been a problem for more than decade in EVE now. How is a step in reducing those factors, making you commit more to drop, making you plan better to drop, in any way a bad thing? Because it means you can’t drop whatever you see at an instant’s notice? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197.md?page=42) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197.md?page=44)