# Chaos Era Continues - Cyno Update

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197>\
**Category:** Upcoming Features & Changes\
**Tags:** null-sec, low-sec, pvp\
**Created:** [August 14, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197 "2019-08-14T16:46:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 44

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**Author:** ![Starflame\_Commissar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/starflame_commissar/32/440413_2.png) [@Starflame\_Commissar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Starflame_Commissar)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/891 "2019-08-14T23:31:29Z")

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It’s a shitty bandaid to a problem caused by the lack of conflict drivers

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**Author:** ![Brilok\_Jogbar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brilok_jogbar/32/479834_2.png) [@Brilok\_Jogbar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brilok_Jogbar)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/892 "2019-08-14T23:31:32Z")

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So you remove jump fatigue and replace it with this? Fatigue was arguably better than this idea … and that’s a truly awful statement.

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**Author:** ![Starflame\_Commissar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/starflame_commissar/32/440413_2.png) [@Starflame\_Commissar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Starflame_Commissar)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/893 "2019-08-14T23:32:18Z")

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That’s really funny coming from you

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**Author:** ![Divad\_Mahdits](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/divad_mahdits/32/153442_2.png) [@Divad\_Mahdits](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Divad_Mahdits)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/894 "2019-08-14T23:32:26Z")

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I wholeheartedly agree. Anybody who does not are really ■■■■■■■ dumb

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**Author:** ![Valtrinor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valtrinor/32/386989_2.png) [@Valtrinor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valtrinor)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/895 "2019-08-14T23:32:50Z")

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When I have time to respond to something that is either an obvious troll or someone clearly having lost their mind, boy oh boy do I have words for this. Until then…

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**Author:** ![Walter\_H\_Eisenberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/walter_h_eisenberg/32/154529_2.png) [@Walter\_H\_Eisenberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Walter_H_Eisenberg)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/897 "2019-08-14T23:33:19Z")

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It is clearly obvious that this update is just one more attempt to kill off industrialists and make it near impossible to defend them.

Industrialists make up 50% of the playerbase, but we are treated more and more like 2nd class citizens.

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**Author:** ![Nyco\_Di\_Valones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nyco_di_valones/32/156952_2.png) [@Nyco\_Di\_Valones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nyco_Di_Valones)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/898 "2019-08-14T23:33:27Z")

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Hello CCP,

I started playing EVE in 2015. Quickly, I joined a well-known nullsec alliance. At that time, there were no Excavators or Citadels. Players used Barges and Exhumers to mine, and we had one Rorqual for boosting. We dropped bubbles on gates, we had a scout, and a few battleships to defend our belt. At the end of the fleet, the income was divided between everyone. And we still won more ISK than if we went to mine alone.

When I took over EVE in late 2018, I was disappointed to see players with their 10 Rorquals, mining on their own moons 24/7, without ever meeting anyone… I preferred when the richs (Rorquals) needed the poors (barges) to earn money - Currently I have a Rorqual -. I preferred when collaboration and helping each other was the key to be rich (and powerful).

So, I’m happy to see this update. I hope it will force players to coorperate a bit more, like before. Maybe by downgrading their ships, and use cheapers/weakers ones ? Maybe by creating more fleets to use their expensives Rorquals. Let’s see what will happen.

It’s a great challenge for nullsec players, and I’m totally in ! Thanks

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**Author:** ![Khan\_Farshatok](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khan_farshatok/32/379812_2.png) [@Khan\_Farshatok](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khan_Farshatok)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/899 "2019-08-14T23:33:35Z")

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Adapt or die nullbears. If you dont like it then leave and make room for those of us with a spine.

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**Author:** ![Sokar\_Herra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sokar_herra/32/384015_2.png) [@Sokar\_Herra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sokar_Herra)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/900 "2019-08-14T23:34:02Z")

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cyno hunting will become much more a thing ☹

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**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/901 "2019-08-14T23:34:21Z")

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> [@CCP\_Rise](#):
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> Fly safe o/

The Blocs will indeed be “flying safe”. You couldn’t have increased safety in numbers for the Blocs in a better way, this change is much safer for the Blocs. Congrats

“Era of Chaos” should be renamed “Era of the Bloc”.  
Two pretty major changes in a month - Both of which help the Blocs maintain superiority in Nulsec.,.

I still say the Bar at CCP headquarters should not be open during work hours. Alcohol induced “stupid” could be the only answer to things like this.,.

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**Author:** ![Magalaus\_Shardani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/magalaus_shardani/32/399592_2.png) [@Magalaus\_Shardani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Magalaus_Shardani)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/902 "2019-08-14T23:34:58Z")

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Cowardly PVE players deserve to be treated like 2nd class citizens.

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**Author:** ![Jameson2011](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jameson2011/32/219078_2.png) [@Jameson2011](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jameson2011)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/903 "2019-08-14T23:35:41Z")

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Try to stay classy. And while you’re at it, adapt or die.

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**Author:** ![MrMuffins](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mrmuffins/32/154560_2.png) [@MrMuffins](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MrMuffins)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/904 "2019-08-14T23:35:43Z")

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Amazing job @CCP_Falcon! What a great change.

Keep this chaos rolling and I’ll never unsub (and please don’t remove the blackout!).

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**Author:** ![Immortal\_Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/immortal_slave/32/154445_2.png) [@Immortal\_Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Immortal_Slave)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/905 "2019-08-14T23:35:47Z")

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Cowardly? You mean like the capital pilots hotdropping _everything_ that moves?

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**Author:** ![Divad\_Mahdits](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/divad_mahdits/32/153442_2.png) [@Divad\_Mahdits](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Divad_Mahdits)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/906 "2019-08-14T23:36:03Z")

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Oooh apply cold water directly to the affected area

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**Author:** ![Walter\_H\_Eisenberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/walter_h_eisenberg/32/154529_2.png) [@Walter\_H\_Eisenberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Walter_H_Eisenberg)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/907 "2019-08-14T23:37:36Z")

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Who built _your_ ship?

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**Author:** ![Grognard\_Commissar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grognard_commissar/32/350623_2.png) [@Grognard\_Commissar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grognard_Commissar)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/908 "2019-08-14T23:41:15Z")

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> [@Immortal\_Slave](#):
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> capital pilots hotdropping _everything_ that moves?

well, if you gottem use em. this will likely do nothing to change that either.

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**Author:** ![Tamanade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tamanade/32/381075_2.png) [@Tamanade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tamanade)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/909 "2019-08-14T23:41:23Z")

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aaaaannnnnd yet another STUPID idea…it just keeps getting better.

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**Author:** ![Loria\_Jabaar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loria_jabaar/32/214888_2.png) [@Loria\_Jabaar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loria_Jabaar)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/910 "2019-08-14T23:41:55Z")

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But rorqs are not isk faucets by any means, they only redistribute money. The only actual faucet is bounty, and a few percent go for stuff like insurance.

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**Author:** ![Grognard\_Commissar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grognard_commissar/32/350623_2.png) [@Grognard\_Commissar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grognard_Commissar)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/911 "2019-08-14T23:42:11Z")

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uh, the indy and pve players in null are the same as the pvpers. we do both dumb dumb.

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