# Chaos Era Continues - Cyno Update **URL:** \ **Category:** Upcoming Features & Changes\ **Tags:** null-sec, low-sec, pvp\ **Created:** [August 14, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197 "2019-08-14T16:46:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 57
**Author:** ![Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_posting_alt/32/254303_2.png) [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Posting_Alt)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1155 "2019-08-15T06:37:38Z")
a T1 cyno should not need to be on a T2 ship ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1156 "2019-08-15T06:38:54Z")
> [@Omega\_Prototype](#): > > im sorry but there has to be a solo mover alternative. There is. It’s called ‘be careful and brick it out’. ---
**Author:** ![Omega\_Prototype](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omega_prototype/32/154657_2.png) [@Omega\_Prototype](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omega_Prototype)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1157 "2019-08-15T06:42:14Z")
You are being dumb. To fit a cap stable repping fit takes billions and even then it wont tank the eventual mach or barghest rolling in to ■■■■ on you. Even when they are bricks they wont live. Cheaply they will die and expensive they will attract friends and then it will die. Sorry but your argument is poor. And Combat recons even fleet fit are usually the weakest cruiser tank wise on the field so wtf are you talking about brick tanking them? Do you even play this game properly? Let me remind you of their price tag. Forgot to mention a little other factoid that ruins that argument too…those under tanked fleet variants are moving and mobile and still get into trouble and the expensive ones that move too can get into trouble…you forget with a cyno your velocity is ZERO which means have fun taking full impacts shots from everything for 10 minutes ---
**Author:** ![Caldaran\_Lazair](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caldaran_lazair/32/145171_2.png) [@Caldaran\_Lazair](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caldaran_Lazair)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1158 "2019-08-15T06:47:16Z")
What some pvp or null sec bunnys think here ??? Cap umbrellas had no problem with this change, big allies can deal with that without problems. This hit small allies and corps again and some new Cap Pilots , and Rorq Pilots , and the risk for Rorq was high enough, look at killboard ---
**Author:** ![NorBdelta\_Aivoras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/norbdelta_aivoras/32/269110_2.png) [@NorBdelta\_Aivoras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NorBdelta_Aivoras)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1159 "2019-08-15T06:51:53Z")
No more cyno Ibis’s, you scrubs have to risk a real ship now! ![yuri](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/a/fa9af4af4317f84e72a850776b7a0c4f5806cfc6.png) ---
**Author:** ![Allty\_Mcalterson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/allty_mcalterson/32/154722_2.png) [@Allty\_Mcalterson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Allty_Mcalterson)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1160 "2019-08-15T06:53:52Z")
Think of how many caps you would see with a cyno fit. It was like having a personally oh ■■■■ button. So sorry boys, time to play the way men play. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Stoffel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lance_stoffel/32/145832_2.png) [@Lance\_Stoffel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lance_Stoffel)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1161 "2019-08-15T06:54:51Z")
Wow, words fail me. Way to encourage centralised stagnant living. Big upside, I now have a tonne of free time. Lol. Not even sure I would resub now, even if they went back to sandbox mode. ---
**Author:** ![primebeef\_Angus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/primebeef_angus/32/154723_2.png) [@primebeef\_Angus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/primebeef_Angus)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1162 "2019-08-15T06:59:11Z")
this is crap, and is far too heavy handed. ---
**Author:** ![Mirai\_Niki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mirai_niki/32/154592_2.png) [@Mirai\_Niki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mirai_Niki)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1163 "2019-08-15T07:05:11Z")
![EveIsDead](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/e/bef8483911c3518fb21d01fbca5412c4c78b682c.png) Hilmar OP success ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1164 "2019-08-15T07:09:12Z")
> [@Omega\_Prototype](#): > > And Combat recons even fleet fit are usually the weakest cruiser tank wise on the field so wtf are you talking about brick tanking them? Well, for one thing, it’s Force Recons, not Combat Recons. As for do I play the game properly… Not only can I tell the difference between a Fleet (Combat) Recon like a Huginn and a Force Recon like a Rapier, I fly Force Recons as cyno ships for our fleets, and have for almost 10 years. Your whole ‘I’m basing this on Combat Recons’ argument is flawed AF. Try looking at what you can do on a Falcon instead of a Huginn. For example: 127k ehp, able to rep the DPS from 1 triple-gyro’d AC Mach or triple-BCS’d RHML Barghest for… drum roll please… 325s. 5:25s. And how long does it need to tank for? > [@Omega\_Prototype](#): > > which means have fun taking full impacts shots from everything for 10 minutes _BZZZT!!_ You only need _5_ minutes. Again: **FORCE** Recon. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1165 "2019-08-15T07:11:15Z")
> [@Allty\_Mcalterson](#): > > So sorry boys, time to play the way men play. Hiding behind forum alts? ---
**Author:** ![Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_posting_alt/32/254303_2.png) [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Posting_Alt)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1167 "2019-08-15T07:16:03Z")
Easy: Stop using Caps except for alliance Ops, and instead hunt others using caps now that they will be easier to kill… oh wait… ---
**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1168 "2019-08-15T07:17:07Z")
> [@Grath\_Telkin](#): > > Who’d had ever thought one day i’d be back to back with Arrendis on a forum brawling weeping nerds over a game change… Oh that made me laugh soooo hard, I peed a little. Anyone who has lived in Nul for more than 5 minutes would see, certain play styles support each other. If the change had an adverse affect on either of your groups you would be side by side yelling from the roof tops - Even if most of the time you enemies in the maps, this change has Zero affect on play style so appearing as frenemies is nice. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Surtr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_surtr/32/388839_2.png) [@Lord\_Surtr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Surtr)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1169 "2019-08-15T07:18:54Z")
liking the ‘chaos’ era more and more and yes i do have caps myself, it’s not a onesided response here i love content more than anything in this game and it does need some chaos ---
**Author:** ![Sentenced\_1989](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sentenced_1989/32/380733_2.png) [@Sentenced\_1989](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sentenced_1989)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1170 "2019-08-15T07:25:14Z")
Unless as per usual you light cyno to bring 200 people to drop on 3 rifters and 1 thorax, then TIDI might kick in 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kahetha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kahetha/32/154725_2.png) [@Kahetha](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kahetha)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1171 "2019-08-15T07:27:08Z")
I have a feeling the idea that supers are easy enough to come by that “nomadic supercap hunting” is a thing at all may have informed their decision. ---
**Author:** ![Thematic\_Chaos\_Eto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thematic_chaos_eto/32/424283_2.png) [@Thematic\_Chaos\_Eto](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Thematic_Chaos_Eto)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1172 "2019-08-15T07:32:33Z")
> [@Olmeca\_Gold](#): > > Moving capitals unsupported just became a lot more costlier. A lot more costly… ffs use English man! ---
**Author:** ![Darwien\_Cesaille](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darwien_cesaille/32/375775_2.png) [@Darwien\_Cesaille](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darwien_Cesaille)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1173 "2019-08-15T07:53:32Z")
For JF I will use force recon not covops frigate; reduced, 30sec cyno time and decent EHP to stay alive … JF cynos lit at station (unless you have blue upwell in the sys) so bored lowsec players will be always on grid to try to kill it. Entry cost to JF world has just skyrocketed … you need expensive ships and long training for cynoalts - running regularly will not work with a single cyno pilot moving around. It will definitely make nullsec logistic more problematic and it will definitely make JF pilots sink lots of ISK and $. ---
**Author:** ![Izya\_Trader](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/izya_trader/32/274228_2.png) [@Izya\_Trader](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Izya_Trader)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1174 "2019-08-15T07:53:56Z")
Why can’t titan use a cyno? He can make a portal, so he must be able to cyno! This is logical. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1175 "2019-08-15T08:05:16Z")
It creates a weak link in the OMG drop everything on anyone type of thing. I rather like it, I guess the force recons will black out the sun or something like that. I wanted to see something that reduced the tyranny of cyno’s and admit that this is rather interesting. If I was moving capitals solo still I think I would be rather upset because losing force recons will add up, but getting away from my own personal hang up on that, I have to say that all in all I like it. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197.md?page=56) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197.md?page=58)