# Chaos Era Continues - Cyno Update **URL:** \ **Category:** Upcoming Features & Changes\ **Tags:** null-sec, low-sec, pvp\ **Created:** [August 14, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197 "2019-08-14T16:46:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 71
**Author:** ![Kaoraku\_Shayiskhun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaoraku_shayiskhun/32/144449_2.png) [@Kaoraku\_Shayiskhun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaoraku_Shayiskhun)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1466 "2019-08-15T20:25:40Z")
At this point it is absolutly clear, that they not play it. Even if they do, they had never have to work hard for their ships, neither do it in a smaller group. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Grime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_grime/32/148674_2.png) [@Lord\_Grime](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Grime)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1467 "2019-08-15T20:26:29Z")
Thank you for proving my point. ---
**Author:** ![Kyle\_Frost](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kyle_frost/32/360264_2.png) [@Kyle\_Frost](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kyle_Frost)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1468 "2019-08-15T20:27:34Z")
Outstanding! Excellent change! More - give me more!!! Second best change after the 0.0 Blackout. EDIT: No sarcasm here. I really do love it! Keep this up! ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1469 "2019-08-15T20:29:54Z")
Tackle the booshed. It hardly adds safety, and capital use is risk free right now. Hell, add a 30 minute (minimum) jump cooldown to all combat caps and it would still be worth it just to kick off the CD, etc. There’s so many ways you could make booshing capitals an absolute terror, while still making it require a bit of skill. The more I think about it, the more it fits the Chaos Era philosophy. Well, the _best_ option would be to delete all capitals from the game, all skill injectors and stockpiled ore and minerals, but I kind of doubt CCP is _that_ dedicated to the chaos era. Having read about how Fozzie considers doing anything at all about skill injectors to be a complete non-starter, it’s not like we can actually fix sod all in Eve to begin with. The worst and biggest core problem will always lie throbbing like a cancerous tumor in the center of it all. ---
**Author:** ![Kaoraku\_Shayiskhun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaoraku_shayiskhun/32/144449_2.png) [@Kaoraku\_Shayiskhun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaoraku_Shayiskhun)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1470 "2019-08-15T20:31:14Z")
Why? You paid for that account too, why wouldn’t use it for your own capital moving? ---
**Author:** ![Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/circumstantial_evidence/32/399551_2.png) [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Circumstantial_Evidence)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1471 "2019-08-15T20:36:33Z")
> [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](#): > > doing anything at all about skill injectors to be a complete non-starter CCP devalues injectors (and SP) with frequent SP give-aways. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1472 "2019-08-15T20:39:44Z")
Yesterday a streamer who I follow on twitch told me what _Booshing_ means. Right this moment I feel that I am one of you! o7 ---
**Author:** ![Tiber\_Galient](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiber_galient/32/154838_2.png) [@Tiber\_Galient](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiber_Galient)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1473 "2019-08-15T21:07:01Z")
if ya dont want to inpact hauling why not a logistic cyno, same as the standard but only JF can jump to it ---
**Author:** ![Ellison\_Onizuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ellison_onizuka/32/314780_2.png) [@Ellison\_Onizuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ellison_Onizuka)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1474 "2019-08-15T21:08:28Z")
I think they should leave cynos on caps but have cynos not allow siege (etc) and if you are in siege (etc) you can not light a cyno. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1475 "2019-08-15T21:08:43Z")
> [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](#): > > Tackle the booshed. Problem is, the spool-up time for the boosher is the time the cyno needs to light and the caps need to jump. You’ve got to get tackle first, and that just gives more time for the booshers to get scrammed. And yes, because capital and supercapital move ops _do_ still use subcap cover fleets, the booshers _will_ get scrammed. > [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](#): > > Well, the _best_ option would be to delete all capitals from the game, all skill injectors and stockpiled ore and minerals Yeah, that’s a great way to show your customers you value the investments they’ve made. MMOs endure largely on sunk cost fallacies, you know. Don’t give people a fresh start in your aging MMO—EQ2 showed how bad an idea that is. CCP should definitely get rid of supers. But they need to do it in a way that makes the people who have them feel like they got something for those supers. > [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](#): > > CCP devalues injectors (and SP) with frequent SP give-aways. No they don’t. Those give-aways go into the SP farms, too. ---
**Author:** ![Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mayhaw_morgan/32/412682_2.png) [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mayhaw_Morgan)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1476 "2019-08-15T21:10:15Z")
> [@Yan\_Ytor](#): > > I legit hope EVE goes under. . . . you [expletive deleted] do not deserve the community EVE has. I would just like to concur wholeheartedly with this poster. EVE Online and Crowd Control Productions, past and present, do not deserve a community composed of people like Yan Ytor. 🙃 Perhaps this is for the best . . . ---
**Author:** ![Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/circumstantial_evidence/32/399551_2.png) [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Circumstantial_Evidence)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1477 "2019-08-15T21:13:03Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/a/5a3d7b315d55fc89da5bcd0b464a07f94a7bd2e9.jpeg) Circumstantial\_Evidence: > > > CCP devalues injectors (and SP) with frequent SP give-aways. > > No they don’t. Those give-aways go into the SP farms, too. I have 1m unallocated SP on this character now thanks to recent promotions… didn’t need to buy an injector for it. ---
**Author:** ![LostCtrl\_Splatt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lostctrl_splatt/32/76644_2.png) [@LostCtrl\_Splatt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LostCtrl_Splatt)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1478 "2019-08-15T21:15:31Z")
This might become interesting a few hot drop alliances near me that are complaining that this announcement will basically be the death of them with the amount of members that have just claimed they are going to unsub. I can finally pull out the Rorq for some mining ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1480 "2019-08-15T21:17:50Z")
> [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](#): > > I have 1m unallocated SP on this character now thanks to recent promotions… didn’t need to buy an injector for it. Right. And you didn’t need to before, either. But the guy who started up and injected his way into a Rorqual right away, upthread? He still needs injectors. And each and every SP-farming account that’s received the same 1m SP has basically gotten _2 free injectors to sell_. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Branigan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jack_branigan/32/145932_2.png) [@Jack\_Branigan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jack_Branigan)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1481 "2019-08-15T21:18:17Z")
Because only someone who doesn’t understand the game would make a statement like you did. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1482 "2019-08-15T21:18:44Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > And yes, because capital and supercapital move ops _do_ still use subcap cover fleets, the booshers _will_ get scrammed. I’ve seen some of these move ops. The openings for a quick boosh are _large_. Also, you ignore that there’s other complementing changes that can be made, like changing requirements for jumping or penalties for it, etc. You are putting a _lot_ faith in the average dunce cycling through different clients on a mostly afk mode. > [@Arrendis](#): > > Yeah, that’s a great way to show your customers you value the investments they’ve made. Then there’s no fixing Eve. The main problems lie in the stockpiled wealth, sp, materials and capital assets, all underpinned by the existence of skill injectors. Welp, guess we’re done here, given that you’ve just established that any _necessary_ change is apparently unwanted. ---
**Author:** ![Becham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/becham/32/327010_2.png) [@Becham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Becham)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1483 "2019-08-15T21:22:49Z")
Jump freighters will need a recon chain to move? LOL so dumb. ---
**Author:** ![Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/circumstantial_evidence/32/399551_2.png) [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Circumstantial_Evidence)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1484 "2019-08-15T21:23:34Z")
If the aspiring Rorqual pilot also participated in recent SP promotions, he didn’t need to buy 1M SP to hit his goal. SP farms will undoubtedly find a buyer for their free SP, but all boats were raised. ---
**Author:** ![Ellison\_Onizuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ellison_onizuka/32/314780_2.png) [@Ellison\_Onizuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ellison_Onizuka)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1485 "2019-08-15T21:24:06Z")
No JF can jump to a covert cyno ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1486 "2019-08-15T21:24:07Z")
> [@Becham](#): > > Jump freighters will need a recon chain to move? LOL so dumb. Jump Freighters got massively buffed by this. CovOps frigs are cheap as hell, the CovOps Cyno has a very short lifespan and doesn’t appear on overview unless you’re on grid with it. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197.md?page=70) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197.md?page=72)