# Chaos Era Continues - Cyno Update **URL:** \ **Category:** Upcoming Features & Changes\ **Tags:** null-sec, low-sec, pvp\ **Created:** [August 14, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197 "2019-08-14T16:46:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 76
**Author:** ![Flash\_E\_Gordon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/flash_e_gordon/32/214752_2.png) [@Flash\_E\_Gordon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Flash_E_Gordon)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1571 "2019-08-16T02:23:40Z")
Shall we discuss the bots for the war decker’s??? ---
**Author:** ![Cybershadow\_v1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cybershadow_v1/32/196536_2.png) [@Cybershadow\_v1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cybershadow_v1)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1572 "2019-08-16T02:24:29Z")
Hilmar “Activity going up in July”, “Highest Mau and Dau in the last 5 years”(Hilmar Talking in stations interview) Like seriously what is this bullsheet metrics we are using now day lets take a look at the real activity and not the thousands of alpla clones being logged in then instantly logged out to boost the Dau. ![EveStatus](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/6/06bee9d342baef5fc725f6c2f1d9657d13e2e4f0.png) All these people that have played for a year and have no endgame aspirations for what ships you want to fly these stats might be great. But for players that want to actually sink a decade of their life into this game and actually have at least something to show for it after all the wasted time,effort and money besides a couple of hundred free killmails against defenceless ratting subcaps or miners then you might relise that the game removing all of its substance is actually hurting the game and is only bringing changes that are good for short term players. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1573 "2019-08-16T02:24:55Z")
> [@Omega\_Prototype](#): > > You answered you question by saying you are high rank or some ■■■■ but how does that make my argument invalid because you have a high rank in a game? I didn’t answer my question. I answered _your_ question. And I didn’t say my position does invalidate your argument. I think your argument is retarded and I laid out why long before @bigbillthaboss3 pointed out what my space-job is. Could you, I dunno, _try_ engaging a second brain cell and keep up with who’s saying what, maybe? I mean, you totally missed the South Park joke, so I dunno, gotta say… not impressed right now. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1575 "2019-08-16T02:29:29Z")
> [@Omega\_Prototype](#): > > you went along with it All I did was answer your question, man. Maybe you should take a deep breath, calm the paranoia and GRRGons and chill the hell out? > [@Omega\_Prototype](#): > > the rest of Eve is tired of you and Panfam alliance Says the dude in NCdot, _literally_ the remnants of BoB. ---
**Author:** ![Omega\_Prototype](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omega_prototype/32/154657_2.png) [@Omega\_Prototype](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omega_Prototype)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1576 "2019-08-16T02:31:33Z")
Yeah GRRGONs and Panfam…you guys are cancer and ruin these games…look at babylon 5 argument above. I’m calm but I am not kidding when I say get the hell out of our galaxy. Yeah I am in Panfam atm…but after being with you and then them…I can confirm you both are cancer. Was I supposed to be a hypocrit to give you a winning blow because you feel you deserve it? ---
**Author:** ![Becham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/becham/32/327010_2.png) [@Becham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Becham)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1577 "2019-08-16T02:33:38Z")
You are only looking at half of the puzzle. The plex has been sold. CCP has the money. The plexing krab then soaks up computing resources in order to produce the isk to pay for the plex. CCP could and should just undercut the krab by eliminating plex and just sell ships direct to the PVPers who don’t want to krab for cash. Then krabbers who like krabbing activity will have to buy accounts. And do away with the stupid Alpha clone. 30 day trial is PLENTY of time. Good for the game in the long run. ---
**Author:** ![Omega\_Prototype](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omega_prototype/32/154657_2.png) [@Omega\_Prototype](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omega_Prototype)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1578 "2019-08-16T02:34:19Z")
Remember the numbers are dropping as we crack down on the Botnami ---
**Author:** ![Cybershadow\_v1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cybershadow_v1/32/196536_2.png) [@Cybershadow\_v1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cybershadow_v1)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1579 "2019-08-16T02:35:02Z")
The bots have just moved to Faction Warfare space ---
**Author:** ![Omega\_Prototype](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omega_prototype/32/154657_2.png) [@Omega\_Prototype](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omega_Prototype)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1580 "2019-08-16T02:35:54Z")
No its not. Alpha clones are the best thing that could happen to eve…games hard enough to get people hooked to the learning cliff…at least infinite trial gives them time and doesn’t put pressure on them. ---
**Author:** ![Vloden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vloden/32/184207_2.png) [@Vloden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vloden)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1581 "2019-08-16T02:36:33Z")
There’s no point telling a guy is cancer when he belongs to the toughest block in a game, I’m sure you know it already. Like any other megablock, there are 1% of ultra arrogant high end officers, followed by 99% of lemmings motivated by propaganda telling them “you are tough” when it can be translated by “you are dumb, but you will live because we are numerous”, no need to have more than 60IQ to understand that simple fact. so please, even if it’s a true fact that many, many people just hate how arrogant those blocks are, raging over them will have no effect on this (or any other) thread. just stop raging please ---
**Author:** ![Omega\_Prototype](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omega_prototype/32/154657_2.png) [@Omega\_Prototype](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omega_Prototype)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1582 "2019-08-16T02:36:58Z")
They have but that just means they get to enjoy the constant neutrals all the time so its an upgrade to dealing with the problem. PLus the vni redesign does it too ---
**Author:** ![Becham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/becham/32/327010_2.png) [@Becham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Becham)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1583 "2019-08-16T02:37:49Z")
Fine, make it a number of logged in hours but make it finite, not this BS alpha crap. It’s not the best thing that’s happened to Eve, it’s been one of the worst. ---
**Author:** ![Omega\_Prototype](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omega_prototype/32/154657_2.png) [@Omega\_Prototype](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omega_Prototype)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1584 "2019-08-16T02:37:54Z")
He wanted to know why I didnt like him or panfam. I told him lol ---
**Author:** ![Omega\_Prototype](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omega_prototype/32/154657_2.png) [@Omega\_Prototype](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omega_Prototype)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1585 "2019-08-16T02:39:26Z")
Its only the worst to you because theres kinks to work out but I will tell you this…noone I knew was even remotely interested in this game. Since the free infinite trial they are now considering it since they have plenty of time to learn the game. Yes it is good for the game…sorry that the bugs and bad quirks are there but thats why we need to refine it…not throw it away. ---
**Author:** ![NextDarkKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nextdarkknight/32/171101_2.png) [@NextDarkKnight](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NextDarkKnight)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1586 "2019-08-16T02:39:28Z")
So much better then my idea!! I though the Cyno should be charged up… the bigger ship you want to bridge or jump the longer you have to light for a lock on time. This is much better because it just total breaks everything. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1587 "2019-08-16T02:39:43Z")
> [@Omega\_Prototype](#): > > Was I supposed to be a hypocrit to give you a winning blow because you feel you deserve it? I don’t particularly care _why_ you were being a hypocrite, just that you were. ---
**Author:** ![Becham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/becham/32/327010_2.png) [@Becham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Becham)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1588 "2019-08-16T02:40:21Z")
How long is long enough for your friends to make up their mind? Do they need 4 years? ---
**Author:** ![Omega\_Prototype](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omega_prototype/32/154657_2.png) [@Omega\_Prototype](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omega_Prototype)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1589 "2019-08-16T02:40:38Z")
But I am not. I just know you would think I am being a hypocrite but I am not. You can claim all day but you are lying to yourself ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1590 "2019-08-16T02:41:02Z")
Yup. Sure. ---
**Author:** ![Cybershadow\_v1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cybershadow_v1/32/196536_2.png) [@Cybershadow\_v1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cybershadow_v1)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1591 "2019-08-16T02:41:22Z")
Maybe form an alliance and fight them instead of non stop complaining about people being organised is OP give us more Free Kills and Instant Gratification CCP Hilmar and CCP Falcon. I will even help you go to reddit post everything besides what you fly that needs a nerf and they will listen. Wish they would listen to their own forum. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197.md?page=75) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197.md?page=77)