# Chaos Era Continues - Cyno Update **URL:** \ **Category:** Upcoming Features & Changes\ **Tags:** null-sec, low-sec, pvp\ **Created:** [August 14, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197 "2019-08-14T16:46:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 79
**Author:** ![Nepsy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nepsy/32/302840_2.png) [@Nepsy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nepsy)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1632 "2019-08-16T05:55:16Z")
Only the recon bpo’s exist, and invention is much faster with them anyways. BLOPS will still require invention ---
**Author:** ![Ganthrithor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ganthrithor/32/273383_2.png) [@Ganthrithor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ganthrithor)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1633 "2019-08-16T06:10:55Z")
Boy, that next PLEX Sale event will have to be one hell of a bargain, won’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Ganthrithor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ganthrithor/32/273383_2.png) [@Ganthrithor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ganthrithor)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1634 "2019-08-16T06:20:47Z")
I like the part where your idea of a “deep and balanced ship meta” consists of small groups of New Eden’s Bravest and Most Skilled Elite PvPers murderzoning everything that moves in covert-teleporting frigate hulls that cost ten cents each. Yup, totally unfair that, say, the largest and best organized and richest group in the game might dare to thwart the entitled green-killboard ambitions of a bunch of Reddit incels. Call me when “cruel but fair” includes the removal of blackops bridges, you incorrigible hacks. ---
**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1635 "2019-08-16T06:35:57Z")
> [@Boulder\_Tsero](#): > > trust in CCP’s objectivity. CCP’s objectivity - We “had” the CSM to try and work with CCP to enhance the game when new things were on the table - Only problem was, CCP only listened to the CSM when they agreed with what CCP wanted to do. Something that didn’t happen often.,. After years of ignoring those who played the game and continually warned them certain changes would be damaging to the game, were not balanced, would create issues, etc. CCP could no longer be objective - They’d screwed up for the best part of 10 years and now it had all come back to bite them in the backside in one fell swoop.,. Objectivity goes out the window when your future is on the line - Draconian intervention is all CCP has at its disposal and by lord they will use it even if it drives thousands of loyal players who have dedicated years to the game, become less active, are forced to join large Bloc groups, move to lowsec or highsec or worst of all, Just quit altogether. CCP’s “objectivity” is so low right now they don’t seem to be looking at the “whole” problem and are trying to fix one aspect of the game with changes that do little more than cause inconvenience to the parts they are trying to address. These same changes have far more game breaking affects on those groups that aren’t in Blocs. Does CCP care - Not right now they don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Sfeed\_Olgidar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sfeed_olgidar/32/133189_2.png) [@Sfeed\_Olgidar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sfeed_Olgidar)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1636 "2019-08-16T06:40:02Z")
Now the risk has become perplexed and we earn less than in highs, and you consider it fair? ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1637 "2019-08-16T07:09:34Z")
> [@Don\_Guru](#): > > You do realise rorqs will just have a cloaked arazu with 100k EHP sitting 150k off right? You are still going to fail miserably, unless the target is in some small group that can’t escalate. Sweet so instead of just leaving I get about a half billion isk kill before moonwalking. ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1638 "2019-08-16T07:11:08Z")
> [@Sfeed\_Olgidar](#): > > Now the risk has become perplexed and we earn less than in highs, and you consider it fair? Unless you were super ratting you likely already where…you should see what I used to make of a two three nights mission running in FW. ---
**Author:** ![Savotien\_Valpurgis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/savotien_valpurgis/32/170543_2.png) [@Savotien\_Valpurgis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Savotien_Valpurgis)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1639 "2019-08-16T07:45:41Z")
> [@Sfeed\_Olgidar](#): > > we earn less than in highs Less than HS ? Your are so bad at farming if you earn less than hs… ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1640 "2019-08-16T07:48:15Z")
> [@Savotien\_Valpurgis](#): > > Less than HS ? Your are so bad at farming if you earn less than hs… Sure about that? I can easily surpass carrier ratting. That is without doing abyssals and or incursions. Super carriers I can’t keep up with, but I don’t need a 15 bil buy in and a keepstar available to do it. Isk is easy. ---
**Author:** ![Julian\_Korolev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/julian_korolev/32/236690_2.png) [@Julian\_Korolev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Julian_Korolev)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1641 "2019-08-16T07:50:08Z")
Herring ---
**Author:** ![Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abruzzi_oskold/32/279259_2.png) [@Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abruzzi_Oskold)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1642 "2019-08-16T07:55:28Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Well we wouldn’t let _you_ in… That could be seen as a complement. ---
**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1643 "2019-08-16T07:59:52Z")
> [@Sunar\_Aluves](#): > > think of future changes on their minds- exaustable resources Of course there would be nothing the game needs more than Goons out and about looking for new regions to plunder while Delve recovers - And of course no-one else wants Delve because it has nothing to offer and is filled to the brim with Hundreds and hundreds of structures you’d need to kill to make it your own. Of course it wouldn’t only be Goons dropping into new space looking for resources - The other Bloc groups would need to do the same. Sure it would create some good fights - For a short time because as soon as one of the small/er sov holding groups has the might of Goons sitting in their home system, they either beg for an alliance or pack up and leave. I really hope CCP don’t make resources completely exhaustible - It would be the end of any small group that is already “just” hanging on with the current knee jerk, ill thought out changes ---
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1644 "2019-08-16T08:28:14Z")
> [@Elwha\_Lynx](#): > > CCP keep it up. Hoping asset safety is up soon. Change it to more like a loot drop-- forced to fight or you loose some of your stuff if it’s not moved in time. Did you really think this out? Ok, So what happens when one of the three super powers decides to feed off smaller entities? ---
**Author:** ![Spartan\_BSX86](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spartan_bsx86/32/396208_2.png) [@Spartan\_BSX86](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spartan_BSX86)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1645 "2019-08-16T08:28:33Z")
this is gonna make it easier to takled supers to survive in their own sov. they already have the cyno beacon to get into the system. while the offensive guyz gonna bleed to get into the sytem with more caps to make those few kills that still happen. ---
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1646 "2019-08-16T08:29:50Z")
> [@Sfeed\_Olgidar](#): > > Now the risk has become perplexed and we earn less than in highs, and you consider it fair? As i stated before, The income should be based on the level/progression of the activity your doing, not where you are doing it. For example, it should shift from abyssal 1 to 5, not from high sec ratting to null sec. This keeps the risk / reward factor everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1647 "2019-08-16T08:37:03Z")
> [@Sgt\_Ocker](#): > > And of course no-one else wants Delve because it has nothing to offer and is filled to the brim with Hundreds and hundreds of structures you’d need to kill to make it your own. This is why stations should be a more serious topic. They should have upgrade stages to them that take long periods of time to complete, and large amounts of money. small structures should be fairly easy to drop, but they should then be upgraded from there to mediums, and ultimately larges. Cap the alliance themselves with the amount of structures, say around 5-10 or so. This will make it important to place them carefully. As i mentioned before, stations are huge for potential, in that they can give corporations, or alliances a purpose. ---
**Author:** ![Soah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/soah/32/154555_2.png) [@Soah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Soah)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1648 "2019-08-16T08:38:06Z")
OMG out of all your posts one thats actually accurate have to admit it would be funny for the first couple of months until the only ones left in nullsec are us and our bluetrals. but if your asking CCP to actually think about their decisions im pretty sure thats a big ask atm. I just cant wait to see the bomber gangs lapping up the cyno changes until the relise the cyno is no longer being lit 30km off them where the can get away instead of the new meta cyno up hic and dics take bridge ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1649 "2019-08-16T09:28:56Z")
> [@Naari\_Naarian](#): > > Did you really think this out? Ok, So what happens when one of the three super powers decides to feed off smaller entities? Same thing that happens now, the small entity gets glassed. ---
**Author:** ![Ophelia\_Dallocort](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ophelia_dallocort/32/138260_2.png) [@Ophelia\_Dallocort](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ophelia_Dallocort)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1650 "2019-08-16T09:43:52Z")
Yeah? wanna cyno on a Velator?.. TAAWWAAAAHAHAHAHAA … ONLY BLOPS NOW!!!.. (but muh dread bomb… okay… only BLOPS and RECONS!) Take that krabs!!! LULZ GET FK GONS… (CCP Monthly Planning Meeting Minutes) I think that was the extent of the analysis… Its SOOO extreme it is a little funny how that decision making process must work… ---
**Author:** ![Wolfkitch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wolfkitch/32/226951_2.png) [@Wolfkitch](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wolfkitch)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/1651 "2019-08-16T09:45:49Z")
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