# Chaos Era Continues - Cyno Update **URL:** \ **Category:** Upcoming Features & Changes\ **Tags:** null-sec, low-sec, pvp\ **Created:** [August 14, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197 "2019-08-14T16:46:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Whitenight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitenight/32/384851_2.png) [@Whitenight](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitenight)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/146 "2019-08-14T17:24:18Z")
I have been playing this game for over 15 years, I have seen good changes and I have seen bad changes. This has to be the worst change coming straight out of the blue I have ever seen. Honestly it makes me not want to re-subscribe my accounts. ---
**Author:** ![asdwwwwwwewwww\_Naari](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/asdwwwwwwewwww_naari/32/128511_2.png) [@asdwwwwwwewwww\_Naari](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/asdwwwwwwewwww_Naari)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/148 "2019-08-14T17:24:32Z")
Null sec will be Null the whole null sec will die also the game and ccp ---
**Author:** ![John\_Marley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_marley/32/180784_2.png) [@John\_Marley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Marley)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/149 "2019-08-14T17:24:34Z")
@CCP_Rise @CCP_Falcon Is it a competition between CCP employees who will chase away the most players? ---
**Author:** ![BearThatCares](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bearthatcares/32/408333_2.png) [@BearThatCares](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BearThatCares)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/150 "2019-08-14T17:24:43Z")
My god… … are you guys trying to make us move to a C2 NS/C5? Hype! ---
**Author:** ![Scream\_MyName](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scream_myname/32/395232_2.png) [@Scream\_MyName](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scream_MyName)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/151 "2019-08-14T17:24:44Z")
atleast give HIC’s cynos, they tackle supers, so they should be able to get there backup in… ---
**Author:** ![Maskim\_Xul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maskim_xul/32/245625_2.png) [@Maskim\_Xul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maskim_Xul)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/152 "2019-08-14T17:25:31Z")
Consider adding T3Cs to the list. They’re expensive, have skill point loss, and would leave open hunting krab supers/titans with tengus. Under the current plan krab supers in nullsec get a defensive buff (since none of those hulls are nullified). Just hang out in a bubblef\*cked pocket and you make it significantly more difficult to get caught before you get safe. Possible, yes, but much more difficult. ---
**Author:** ![xAOWxdragonman14](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xaowxdragonman14/32/142249_2.png) [@xAOWxdragonman14](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xAOWxdragonman14)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/153 "2019-08-14T17:25:35Z")
Queue another round of people saying “game is going to die” or the 100+ “time to unsub” After 10+ years hearing this it’s amazing how EvE is still around. Feel free to send your crap to me ---
**Author:** ![Bjornson\_Thellere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bjornson_thellere/32/154206_2.png) [@Bjornson\_Thellere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bjornson_Thellere)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/154 "2019-08-14T17:25:35Z")
■■■■ YEAH, this is what we need this whole time, thx CCP for finaly changing something for better (_looks at ECM changes and DED site loot drop nerfs_) 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Joyous\_Ohaya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/joyous_ohaya/32/136734_2.png) [@Joyous\_Ohaya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Joyous_Ohaya)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/155 "2019-08-14T17:25:40Z")
Excellent change. ---
**Author:** ![xOmGx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xomgx/32/242854_2.png) [@xOmGx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xOmGx)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/156 "2019-08-14T17:25:57Z")
Oh wow that… change Can you also provide statistics how much Acc will be unsubbed after 1, 2 and 3 months? Just to see impact of this change Also this change will be WITH Blackout still Active? PS. Thank you CCP you just made me decide NOT ot resub one of my 4 inactive now (due to Blackout) Accs ---
**Author:** ![xAOWxdragonman14](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xaowxdragonman14/32/142249_2.png) [@xAOWxdragonman14](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xAOWxdragonman14)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/157 "2019-08-14T17:26:39Z")
This will affect nothing, stop being a baby ---
**Author:** ![Saeger1737](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saeger1737/32/459629_2.png) [@Saeger1737](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saeger1737)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/158 "2019-08-14T17:26:42Z")
Even more Proof CCP RISE doesn’t play Eve @CCP_Rise This change is stupid ---
**Author:** ![Vere\_Malukker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vere_malukker/32/319909_2.png) [@Vere\_Malukker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vere_Malukker)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/159 "2019-08-14T17:26:48Z")
RIP big titan battles ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Ska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_ska/32/154152_2.png) [@Peter\_Ska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Ska)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/160 "2019-08-14T17:26:56Z")
what nerf? we get a highslot back on our ratting supers, need a force recon alt in every system, that’s it. super umbrellas are fine thanks. wtb force recon BPOs though ---
**Author:** ![Nasar\_Vyron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nasar_vyron/32/264128_2.png) [@Nasar\_Vyron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nasar_Vyron)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/161 "2019-08-14T17:27:08Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > Its a post made by CCP, who elses permisison do you think they need to change their game? PA gave them autonomy to run EVE how they see fit, there is nobody for them to answer to and they don’t need to consult us lol I’m just saying there’s no way they took the time to run it past even the CSM let alone a small group of the playerbase to get opinions. This has literally come to be expected, it’s why we elect a CSM to begin with. The people of the CSM could have pointed out that this will not in any way effect the larger groups. It only requires us to inject up our cyno alts a little more to now use covert cynos. But the little guy, they get completely screwed in scaling as it’s another thing they must now overcome before they can even begin to compete. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/162 "2019-08-14T17:27:10Z")
Oh wow this is significant. It’s _frighteningly_ significant. JF use just got … different. I mean, clever use will let the covops cyno survive a damn sight more often than the throw-away cynos would but still. That’s a _lot_ of cyno alts that just became completely worthless. It’ll complicate things for everyone from traders through null dwellers, etc. I mean, the big alliances will easily be able to adapt, especially in their own space, but… wow. Capital umbrellas are currently somewhat ineffective, so let’s hope we get a week of lots of dead bears before everyone’s skill injectored new cloaked alts to sit next to their bear chars. Offensive capital uses just went kind of to ■■■■ for a bit though. No cyno capable ship can survive more than a couple of ticks in contested grids now, which is going to be a significant problem, as it’s the easiest thing in the world to sandbag gate traveling capital forces. Okay, overall initial thoughts: Awesome. I love it. This’ll shake things up a bit. Nowhere near _enough_, and it’ll require some tweaking, but it’s a great start. Please start working more on disrupting the game for the big boys as well as the rest of us though. This change, just like the rest, keeps hitting the small guys so much worse than the rest. That is a problem that requires tweaking and continuous work. I love it. ---
**Author:** ![Verlyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verlyn/32/435163_2.png) [@Verlyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verlyn)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/163 "2019-08-14T17:27:21Z")
Eve : Umbrella Reboot patch ---
**Author:** ![Akhenaten\_The\_Heretic](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akhenaten_the_heretic/32/154213_2.png) [@Akhenaten\_The\_Heretic](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akhenaten_The_Heretic)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/164 "2019-08-14T17:27:35Z")
PLEASE don’t unsub!!! BIOMASS instead!!! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sentimental\_Journey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sentimental_journey/32/154202_2.png) [@Sentimental\_Journey](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sentimental_Journey)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/165 "2019-08-14T17:27:40Z")
so basically get rekt if you live anywhere but WH/HS space… no more defending your space to dread bombs, no more content in null, no more “whales” to hunt. #feelbadman ---
**Author:** ![Apo\_Lamperouge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/apo_lamperouge/32/420136_2.png) [@Apo\_Lamperouge](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Apo_Lamperouge)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/166 "2019-08-14T17:27:44Z")
So… someone says Olmeca wont like it, you say he will… consensus says? This is awesome. Recons are underused, Ibis throwaway cyno too stronk. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197.md?page=9)