# Chaos Era Continues - Cyno Update

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197>\
**Category:** Upcoming Features & Changes\
**Tags:** null-sec, low-sec, pvp\
**Created:** [August 14, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197 "2019-08-14T16:46:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Festmester\_Uctionsson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/festmester_uctionsson/32/266759_2.png) [@Festmester\_Uctionsson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Festmester_Uctionsson)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/2036 "2019-08-22T23:05:06Z")

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Yes they can, the covert version. Unless they change it so only true covert ships may use the covert cyno. Else they will be the most powerful ship in the blackout meta.

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**Author:** ![Zappity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zappity/32/502632_2.png) [@Zappity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zappity)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/2037 "2019-08-22T23:16:37Z")

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Yeah, I get what you’re saying about the covops subsystem (it would be logical) but Rise addressed it specifically on Talking in Stations: T3C won’t be able to light cynos.

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**Author:** ![Festmester\_Uctionsson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/festmester_uctionsson/32/266759_2.png) [@Festmester\_Uctionsson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Festmester_Uctionsson)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/2038 "2019-08-22T23:20:27Z")

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Oh that’s cool. Which TiS was that? I listened to the full one they released on the cyno change but didn’t hear anything about T3C 😕

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**Author:** ![Zappity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zappity/32/502632_2.png) [@Zappity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zappity)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/2039 "2019-08-22T23:44:35Z")

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Listen to the latest TIS from 44.40 for a few minutes, easy enough to miss.

> **[CCP Rise Speaks on Chaos and Cynos - Talking in Stations](https://www.talkinginstations.com/2019/08/ccp-rise-speaks-on-chaos-and-cynos/)**
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> Season 3, Episode 12 — Another highly anticipated interview with CCP. This time Sr. Game Designer CCP Rise talks about the recent announcement that Cynosural Fields will change drastically. The effects of the change will be felt across the game by...

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**Author:** ![Festmester\_Uctionsson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/festmester_uctionsson/32/266759_2.png) [@Festmester\_Uctionsson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Festmester_Uctionsson)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/2040 "2019-08-23T00:49:31Z")

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I hear they specifically mention T3C cloaky nullified aspect, where Rise says they’re not doing it right away because “it’s mostly just confusing” and they are too tanky. Hmm 🙂

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/2041 "2019-08-23T01:18:44Z")

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Normal cynos. Because it’s too complicated for them to decide ‘we can put that on a subsystem’.

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**Author:** ![Teddy\_KGB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teddy_kgb/32/186819_2.png) [@Teddy\_KGB](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teddy_KGB)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/2042 "2019-08-23T06:51:54Z")

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[CCP Rise](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Rise), 1st September or exact date is uknown yet?

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**Author:** ![Nakito\_Kobara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nakito_kobara/32/379065_2.png) [@Nakito\_Kobara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nakito_Kobara)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/2043 "2019-08-23T08:13:31Z")

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Online numbers down almost 10k from a year ago.

Keep up the good work CCP!

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**Author:** ![Willem\_Dillen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/willem_dillen/32/155855_2.png) [@Willem\_Dillen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Willem_Dillen)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/2044 "2019-08-23T09:46:36Z")

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Could really not make the EVE community happier all Goons gone overnight.  
That would make EVE a 100% better game alone.

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**Author:** ![Stereope](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stereope/32/145749_2.png) [@Stereope](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stereope)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/2045 "2019-08-23T16:02:17Z")

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Hah! Dude! Really!?? Thats literally your game play :)))

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**Author:** ![Irridan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/irridan/32/423856_2.png) [@Irridan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Irridan)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/2046 "2019-08-23T16:38:03Z")

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I dunno why ppl dislike.  
And noone complains that interdictor probe launchers only go on sabres )  
And portals only fit for titans.  
Please fit jump portal to my nestor. Pretty please ?

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**Author:** ![Tappits](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tappits/32/256441_2.png) [@Tappits](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tappits)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/2047 "2019-08-23T17:49:24Z")

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Intresting new thing on SISI… Freight Cynosural Field place holder item

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**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/2048 "2019-08-23T22:52:41Z")

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Just buy a Black Ops battleship.,.

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**Author:** ![suicide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/suicide/32/384551_2.png) [@suicide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/suicide)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/2049 "2019-08-23T22:52:58Z")

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If you are just flipping settings around to try to create chaos why don’t you try messing with cyno / jump drive spool-up. You can have different values for every ship type.

These changes seem rather um terribad.

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**Author:** ![Ashila\_SallaKai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashila_sallakai/32/189795_2.png) [@Ashila\_SallaKai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashila_SallaKai)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/2050 "2019-08-24T00:13:04Z")

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CCP hates Goonswarm… Goons had the best infrastructure with “save cyno traveling” noone else had this… you need ■■■■■■■ omega for cynos, right? But thats not enough… First you take the local of nullsec and now that… Ill stop paying for that ■■■■… Please ban me because youre retaded mofos!

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**Author:** ![Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_posting_alt/32/254303_2.png) [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Posting_Alt)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/2051 "2019-08-24T08:59:48Z")

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This impacts everyone, but the large null blocks will feel it the least.

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**Author:** ![Basil\_Vulpine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/basil_vulpine/32/19190_2.png) [@Basil\_Vulpine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Basil_Vulpine)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/2052 "2019-08-24T11:59:31Z")

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Waaay too much thread for me to read through so sorry if this is a repeat.

Given that “Normal” cynogen is going to be on larger T2 hulls only why not flip around the skill requirements? Let covert cyno be lit with skill 1+, normal cyno requires cyno 5.

Also given that covert ops ships are going to be having a field day for a while drop off the 50% fatigue reduction. They really don’t need it at this point given the new drop kill : drop nokill ratio they are going to be seeing.

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**Author:** ![Vue\_Papotte](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vue_papotte/32/489517_2.png) [@Vue\_Papotte](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vue_Papotte)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/2053 "2019-08-24T13:15:03Z")

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I would suggest a transition period for implementing these changes… otherwise the only way current JF pilots will be able to continue to function would be by emergency-injecting $$$ the new required skills for their alts… Cynosural Field Theory V is 24 days train… getting into a ship that can use a covert cyno (or the new regular cyno) will also take additional skilling-up time.

Or is this an emergency measure by CCP to get some quick cash from cyno alts mass-injecting? Ok, so you must allow some time to train up… September is too soon.

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**Author:** ![Demortis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demortis/32/442327_2.png) [@Demortis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Demortis)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/2054 "2019-08-24T14:05:30Z")

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Why is Eve so messed up are they all on crack still from Vegas should have seen them all was not cool… but to continue to hurt players is beyond me. What is a cyno… A cheap toss away ship that is locked in space for 5minutes after it burns some fuel. It’s not worth anything its a anchor drop and that’s it. If I have to spend 60M to drop a cyno I just won’t which in turn means no transport which is no commerce which is no sub members and no goods back and forth to HS. CCP why are you meaning up so much thees days are you guys done?

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**Author:** ![Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravid_bheskagor/32/472687_2.png) [@Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravid_Bheskagor)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-continues-cyno-update/182197/2055 "2019-08-24T17:35:41Z")

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Owning a capital ship should require help from a player group.  
A cyno ship does not need to die.  
If it has a sub-capital fleet guarding it and providing repairs.

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