# Chaos era going forward **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 17, 2019, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-going-forward/183310 "2019-08-17T05:40:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nepsy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nepsy/32/302840_2.png) [@Nepsy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nepsy)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-going-forward/183310/1 "2019-08-17T05:40:23Z")
Now that capital mobility has been crippled without 500m recon alts, CCP should buff battleships to have 2.5 au/s base warp speed so they can become relevant again (Also stops hyperspatial ratting carriers from catching up and instablapping) Also would be nice for command ships to have cynos too. That way, we get a slightly less squishy option for lighting cynos and people can’t complain about the lack of tank. Also makes command ships slightly relevant. Thanks for coming to my TED talk ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/516955_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 5:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-going-forward/183310/2 "2019-08-17T05:42:28Z")
I am very new to understanding the value in capitals but is there a issue with jumping through the standard gates? Is there enough capitals like battleships in the game or way less? / Never mind, I need to walk before I can swim in this space. ---
**Author:** ![Nepsy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nepsy/32/302840_2.png) [@Nepsy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nepsy)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-going-forward/183310/3 "2019-08-17T05:44:12Z")
The whole appeal of capitals is the massive damage increase, the massive tank increase and the mobility increase from the jump drive over battleships. Jumping through standard gates is stupid if there’s a perfectly good option of jumping to cynos. People are getting mad because they’re afraid to risk a 500m cyno recon and don’t want to train into it, but still want all the benefits of the jump drive. ---
**Author:** ![Grognard\_Commissar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grognard_commissar/32/350623_2.png) [@Grognard\_Commissar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grognard_Commissar)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-going-forward/183310/4 "2019-08-17T06:12:17Z")
more because recons and blops are stupidly squishy, AND it take away from ships that ordinarily would have cynos, like HICs, FC ships, etc. it’s not liek all the Ships Of The Line have cynos… also, it makes solo moves of caps much more difficult (think suitcase carriers, etc.) ---
**Author:** ![Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravid_bheskagor/32/472687_2.png) [@Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravid_Bheskagor)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-going-forward/183310/5 "2019-08-17T11:05:39Z")
@Nepsy your killboard shows you stay in high security space. You can not have experience with cynosural fields in battle conditions. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-going-forward/183310/6 "2019-08-17T11:08:11Z")
And alts are some how illegal now? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-going-forward/183310/7 "2019-08-17T11:11:46Z")
Yellow. ---
**Author:** ![Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravid_bheskagor/32/472687_2.png) [@Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravid_Bheskagor)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-going-forward/183310/8 "2019-08-17T11:15:54Z")
Post with your main so we know who you are. @Mark_Marconi you do not have a killboard. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Marconi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_marconi/32/150029_2.png) [@Mark\_Marconi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Marconi)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-going-forward/183310/9 "2019-08-17T11:29:18Z")
Oh boo hoo. Like a kill board has any relevance. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-going-forward/183310/10 "2019-08-17T11:43:22Z")
Cap blobs are boring. Caps are stupid and broken. They promote “bigger is better” playstyle which is directly contrary to EVE’s design philosophy which is in place and more or less healthy with subcapitals. The jump from Battlecruiser to Battleship isn’t huge, either in ship size or DPS/EHP. Battleships might be the biggest and tankiest of the subcaps but there are many reasons and situations to bring a smaller ship vs a Battleship. The jump from Battleship to Dread leaves a gap so wide a Titan could fly through it. I have no problem with caps being big and strong, but utilizing their power should open vulnerabilities. ---
**Author:** ![Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravid_bheskagor/32/472687_2.png) [@Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravid_Bheskagor)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-going-forward/183310/11 "2019-08-17T14:38:26Z")
Capitals should provide advanced tactical options for fleet, corporation and alliance warfare. And do no damage. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-going-forward/183310/12 "2019-08-17T15:07:14Z")
carrier and supercarrier literally do 0 damage. ---
**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-going-forward/183310/13 "2019-08-17T15:31:09Z")
> [@Mark\_Marconi](#): > > And alts are some how illegal now? i wish, would make more people work together instead of doing everything their self. currently im in the middle of killing someone running a 20 man gank fleet by himself ---
**Author:** ![Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravid_bheskagor/32/472687_2.png) [@Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravid_Bheskagor)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-going-forward/183310/14 "2019-08-17T15:45:24Z")
Friends are better than alternative characters. ---
**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-going-forward/183310/15 "2019-08-17T15:47:00Z")
imagine if out server population was 25k people logged in and not a very big percentage of alts. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-going-forward/183310/16 "2019-08-17T15:50:06Z")
> [@Agondray](#): > > currently im in the middle of killing someone running a 20 man gank fleet by himself You mean this one of of twenty: [Catalyst | Jack Kusion | Killmail | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/kill/78473241/) Half the damage was done by facpol. ---
**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-going-forward/183310/17 "2019-08-17T15:57:13Z")
and? you have to be able to lock fast when they land, also it collects a lot of salt from people that claim shooting them makes no difference. they resort to either attempting to gank or changing systems or docking up for extended periods of time. im just hunting bot like aspirants ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-going-forward/183310/18 "2019-08-17T16:11:14Z")
> [@Agondray](#): > > im just hunting bot like aspirants ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/0/90ea1aa55427f9a3cc0ee233497ed8a03e0a6479.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Nepsy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nepsy/32/302840_2.png) [@Nepsy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nepsy)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-going-forward/183310/19 "2019-08-17T16:52:49Z")
Exactly, blops and recons are too squishy so let command ships get cynos too. Then the only thing to complain about would be the cost, but that would just be what you would have to deal with to fly caps ---
**Author:** ![Grognard\_Commissar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grognard_commissar/32/350623_2.png) [@Grognard\_Commissar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grognard_Commissar)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-going-forward/183310/20 "2019-08-17T17:01:44Z")
or at least HICs [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-going-forward/183310.md?page=2)