# Chaos Era Stealth Buffs **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 12, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-stealth-buffs/189321 "2019-09-12T00:15:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mister\_Tatermits](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mister_tatermits/32/160057_2.png) [@Mister\_Tatermits](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mister_Tatermits)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-stealth-buffs/189321/1 "2019-09-12T00:15:09Z")
Hey everyone! Just want to congratulate CCP on some sorta stealth buffs to the game that not enough people are talking about. First, about me : I have been playing this game for more than a decade, but tend to only sub 2-3 months of each year. Occasionally more, sometimes less. I have to say the Chaos Era changes sounded pretty wild to me at first, and got me to resub after a shorter hiatus than I normally take. After taking a bit of a survey of the landscape, I am happy to report two wonderful player experience buffs that have happened due to blackout and cyno change: 1. I don’t hear anyone bragging about how they “havent spent real money on this game in more than a year” because their “isk per hour is enough to PLEX all 8 of their characters in less than a week”. Have not heard it a single effing time since I’ve resubbed. Used to hear about it at least once every few days, but those players have either quit or shut their mouths since blackout and cyno changes were announced! 2. Not a single mention of “but a DELVE MINUTE” since I’ve been back. Not ONE! A year ago you couldn’t have more than a few conversations without someone jumping in to remind you " A DELVE MINUTE!". Its incredible. On top of the 15,000 plus accounts banned this year, I have to say this is one of the most exciting times to be a player in this game. Even in my shoes, where I have a lot of overtime at work lately and am just so exhausted on a daily basis from working so much more than I’m asked… I’m happy to sub my accounts and give money to CCP because they really are making strides in Eve Online. In all my 10+ years I never would have imagined that something could have been done about all the people bragging about their 8 accounts farming Nullsec, or how CCP could possibly balance out ‘The Delve Minute’ but lo and behold… they have done it. And they’ve done it in rather short order. Take my money CCP! Take it and keep making this game a better place to be for those of us who aren’t cheating! I’m impressed I haven’t heard two of the most demoralizing types of statements since I’ve been back : “I play this game for free by farming NS with my capitals and PLEXing 8 accounts lolol haven’t spent money once in more than a year” and also “… DELVE MINUTE THO!” Few things are as disheartening to other players than hearing the success of people who cheat at the game they play, and understanding thats what they are up against. And few things in this game ever got me so excited as to hear them stop bragging and start crying because blackout and cyno change is just too much and they’d rather quit than defend sov space or join intel channel. GG CCP , what a great time to be coming back to the game ---
**Author:** ![Becham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/becham/32/327010_2.png) [@Becham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Becham)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-stealth-buffs/189321/2 "2019-09-12T02:00:24Z")
Killboard checks out. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-stealth-buffs/189321/3 "2019-09-12T12:14:00Z")
Everyone in Kanto is nuts about DELVE MINUTE ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-stealth-buffs/189321/4 "2019-09-12T12:43:26Z")
What’s a “delve minute”? ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-stealth-buffs/189321/5 "2019-09-12T13:00:48Z")
Something confused with a Delve Unit? ---
**Author:** ![Becham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/becham/32/327010_2.png) [@Becham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Becham)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-stealth-buffs/189321/6 "2019-09-12T15:37:54Z")
I am calling OP fake news. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Cardinal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_cardinal/32/465862_2.png) [@The\_Cardinal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Cardinal)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-stealth-buffs/189321/7 "2019-09-12T16:08:29Z")
Maybe you are not hearing from them because they are no longer around playing EVE. This is the story I hear from corps I’ve talked to. ---
**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-stealth-buffs/189321/8 "2019-09-12T16:29:55Z")
They must have added extra traffic control crew, because I haven’t had to interact with one for over a month.🤐 ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-stealth-buffs/189321/9 "2019-09-12T17:46:42Z")
Enjoy it while you can. If the current decline in online players continues, pretty soon you’re the last player left. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-stealth-buffs/189321/10 "2019-09-12T17:50:21Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > What’s a “delve minute”? A Delve Minute is 1 billion ISK, because Delve produced 1 billion ISK in bounties per minute, pre-BO and cyno changes. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-stealth-buffs/189321/11 "2019-09-12T17:58:29Z")
> [@Mister\_Tatermits](#): > > Few things are as disheartening to other players than hearing the success of people who cheat at the game they play 1. Why do you resent others doing ok? 2. Cheat? How is/was turbocrabbing cheating? ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-stealth-buffs/189321/12 "2019-09-12T18:00:05Z")
I think he’s referring to bots and (possibly) the third party safety-net applications used. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-stealth-buffs/189321/13 "2019-09-12T18:33:55Z")
Ouuuh! Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Destroyer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darth_destroyer/32/159179_2.png) [@Darth\_Destroyer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darth_Destroyer)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-stealth-buffs/189321/15 "2019-09-13T11:12:21Z")
Me also, just heard about Blackout, then checked forums, seen the nullbear whiners, then fast renew my 2 omega account to support CCP. Null sec must be cleared of carebears finally. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-stealth-buffs/189321/16 "2019-09-13T13:05:13Z")
Look … it is another forum warrior. ---
**Author:** ![CoRrUpTiGe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corruptige/32/178725_2.png) [@CoRrUpTiGe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CoRrUpTiGe)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-stealth-buffs/189321/17 "2019-09-13T16:03:49Z")
This is one thing in eve life that has been simple forever… get rid of goons…make the game great again. It’s like terrible poop stain… get it out and you can wear your pants again. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Tatermits](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mister_tatermits/32/160057_2.png) [@Mister\_Tatermits](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mister_Tatermits)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-stealth-buffs/189321/19 "2019-09-13T23:53:22Z")
Well folks, I’ve been throwing the fact that - you don’t hear people bragging about how they plex all 10 of their accounts and never spend real money on eve any more - you don’t hear people interjecting " A DELVE MINUTE LOL " into every third conversation these days and that - CCP has banned 15,000 accounts and nearly every chaos era change is meant to make AFK farming Nullsec a bit more risky for those they didn’t ban So last night, I did the math. Lets talk about that ’ DELVE MINUTE '. I finally have the numbers in case you want to know who isn’t logging in any more. [The Monthly Economic Report, August '18 : Delve Region] 7.03 trillion isk & 11.44 trillion isk mined & bounties 18,470,000,000,000 isk between the two = 421,689,497 delve minute , August '18 [The Monthly Economic Report, August '19 : Delve Region] -4.39 trillion isk & 3.62 trillion isk mined & bounties 8,010,000,000,000 = 182,876,712 delve minute, August '19 421,689,497 Delve Minute August, one year ago 182,876,712 Delve Minute August, this year Thats a _57%_ drop @Becham I’m clearly posting with an alt 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-stealth-buffs/189321/20 "2019-09-13T23:56:34Z")
i never have to pay for any subs as i just farm all the isk in empire with ease ---
**Author:** ![Compo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/compo/32/167680_2.png) [@Compo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Compo)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-stealth-buffs/189321/22 "2019-09-14T09:23:51Z")
![motivatinal](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/d/5d09b3f299927303a38205e22c8b0aca71bf9a6a.jpeg) Really someone found this offensive how fck up are you, flag this then bitch ![finger](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/0/d0097e504342ceec9f0b8443b537fa5957d14c65.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-stealth-buffs/189321/23 "2019-09-14T09:29:07Z")
Yeah, that’s messed up. I actually thought the bear ‘Motivation’ one was rather clever and actually on topic. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/chaos-era-stealth-buffs/189321.md?page=2)