# Cheating NPC miner **URL:** \ **Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [January 9, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cheating-npc-miner/50133 "2018-01-09T21:17:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cheating-npc-miner/50133/1 "2018-01-09T21:17:56Z")
Have a look at this protocol: 21:12:50 Notify Target is invulnerable. 21:12:47 Combat 845 to Poksu Mineral Group Badger - 425mm AutoCannon II - Penetrates 21:12:44 Combat 580 to Poksu Mineral Group Badger - 425mm AutoCannon II - Hits 21:12:40 Combat 856 to Poksu Mineral Group Badger - 425mm AutoCannon II - Penetrates 21:12:37 Combat 643 to Poksu Mineral Group Badger - 425mm AutoCannon II - Hits 21:12:36 Combat Warp scramble attempt from you to Poksu Mineral Group Badger The last entry is from logging the NPC Badger to warp away from my SCRAM! Have to admit was the first time I shot one of these miners (the new dark blue color annoyed me … lol). Is this cheating normal or a bug? ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cheating-npc-miner/50133/2 "2018-01-09T21:23:34Z")
That should not happen. You didn’t get out of scram range did you, they can switch direction rapidly. ---
**Author:** ![Iwo\_Sh\_ivah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iwo_sh_ivah/32/32800_2.png) [@Iwo\_Sh\_ivah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iwo_Sh_ivah)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cheating-npc-miner/50133/3 "2018-01-09T21:26:02Z")
I’d bet on this one. Use disuptor next time. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cheating-npc-miner/50133/4 "2018-01-09T21:32:08Z")
Then the message would have been different … also the badger was not moving at all, except from going instant into warp. ---
**Author:** ![Iwo\_Sh\_ivah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iwo_sh_ivah/32/32800_2.png) [@Iwo\_Sh\_ivah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iwo_Sh_ivah)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cheating-npc-miner/50133/5 "2018-01-09T21:39:56Z")
You’ve got jammed by belt rats, lost the lock and scram? ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cheating-npc-miner/50133/6 "2018-01-09T21:41:24Z")
_sigh_ not according to the log, there were no rats, only me, the NPC badger and some NPC mining ships. The badger was ~2000m from my position (I combat probed warped there). ---
**Author:** ![Iwo\_Sh\_ivah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iwo_sh_ivah/32/32800_2.png) [@Iwo\_Sh\_ivah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iwo_Sh_ivah)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cheating-npc-miner/50133/7 "2018-01-09T21:48:08Z")
That case I can only say they behave really, really odd today. Maybe AI changes haven’t settle in yet. I’ve had cases when response fleet showed up almost instantly when I landed on grid and this shouldn’t happen also. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cheating-npc-miner/50133/8 "2018-01-09T21:51:31Z")
That’s not the only way they cheat. I’ve bumped an NPC skiff about 100km off the rock it was mining and it was STILL locked onto it and mining… ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cheating-npc-miner/50133/9 "2018-01-09T21:55:13Z")
Bug Report it. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cheating-npc-miner/50133/10 "2018-04-09T21:55:22Z")
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