# Cloakers and counters

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloakers-and-counters/50916>\
**Category:** PvP Ships & Modules\
**Created:** [January 13, 2018, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloakers-and-counters/50916 "2018-01-13T12:31:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Karl\_Poljus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karl_poljus/32/173233_2.png) [@Karl\_Poljus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karl_Poljus)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloakers-and-counters/50916/2 "2018-01-13T12:34:38Z")

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Please offer your ideas in this thread, do not create new ones.

> **[Main AFK cloaky thread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/main-afk-cloaky-thread/4731/940)**
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> Look if you were not doing anything to begin with…you’d have a legit point. If you were sitting there gathering no ISK, minerals, or anything else that is tangible game resource…okay. But the thing is you weren’t. You weren’t just hanging at a safe...

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