# Cloaky camping the meta **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [November 23, 2017, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-camping-the-meta/41235 "2017-11-23T08:06:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Buggs\_LeRoach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buggs_leroach/32/376676_2.png) [@Buggs\_LeRoach](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buggs_LeRoach)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-camping-the-meta/41235/22 "2017-11-23T15:07:42Z")
yes i can read , you said camper i said neutral . play semantics if you like , you’re not disputing my point : one player is shutting down your system , and ruining your game . it’s probably an alt of your corpmates ))) he logs his neutral into system , you run and hide , and he gets all the system to himself while you cower in station and weep and make forum post how unfair it is … ))) ---
**Author:** ![The\_AntiChrist666\_Diablo13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_antichrist666_diablo13/32/35162_2.png) [@The\_AntiChrist666\_Diablo13](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_AntiChrist666_Diablo13)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-camping-the-meta/41235/23 "2017-11-23T15:08:44Z")
Thanks for helping me out bruh 🛢 ---
**Author:** ![Ag3nt\_Jita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ag3nt_jita/32/48115_2.png) [@Ag3nt\_Jita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ag3nt_Jita)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-camping-the-meta/41235/24 "2017-11-23T15:11:57Z")
Let me help you a little. It’s not neutral, it’s **red** and not only one. Most of our systems have been cloaky camped. I can’t make it easier for you. ---
**Author:** ![Wander\_Prian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wander_prian/32/394208_2.png) [@Wander\_Prian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wander_Prian)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-camping-the-meta/41235/25 "2017-11-23T15:12:17Z")
Oh look, another one of these… A) [https://forums.eveonline.com/t/main-afk-cloaky-thread/](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/main-afk-cloaky-thread/) Use that and don’t make more threads. B) AFK-cloaking is a symptom of over-reliance on Intel given by local. Fix local, no need to AFK-cloak C) Read Falcons response: [Main AFK cloaky thread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/main-afk-cloaky-thread/4731/363) ---
**Author:** ![The\_AntiChrist666\_Diablo13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_antichrist666_diablo13/32/35162_2.png) [@The\_AntiChrist666\_Diablo13](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_AntiChrist666_Diablo13)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-camping-the-meta/41235/26 "2017-11-23T15:14:53Z")
I just created a suggestion for ideas in this forum section, again blaming me for your own drama is not my concern, just pretend I’m not here 🎙 ---
**Author:** ![Wander\_Prian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wander_prian/32/394208_2.png) [@Wander\_Prian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wander_Prian)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-camping-the-meta/41235/27 "2017-11-23T15:19:27Z")
I can blame you for not following forum rules (opening duplicate threads is against the rules) as a simple search would have pointed you to the right place. Otherwise, there is no drama in here. ---
**Author:** ![The\_AntiChrist666\_Diablo13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_antichrist666_diablo13/32/35162_2.png) [@The\_AntiChrist666\_Diablo13](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_AntiChrist666_Diablo13)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-camping-the-meta/41235/28 "2017-11-23T15:20:41Z")
save yourself the drama ---
**Author:** ![Wander\_Prian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wander_prian/32/394208_2.png) [@Wander\_Prian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wander_Prian)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-camping-the-meta/41235/29 "2017-11-23T15:32:03Z")
You seem to think that anyone who disagrees with you is a troll or is here just to cause drama. ---
**Author:** ![The\_AntiChrist666\_Diablo13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_antichrist666_diablo13/32/35162_2.png) [@The\_AntiChrist666\_Diablo13](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_AntiChrist666_Diablo13)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-camping-the-meta/41235/30 "2017-11-23T15:47:28Z")
If that seems to you like that that’s okay, just save your self the time with it, you don’t have to reply to every single comment I say 🎊 ---
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-camping-the-meta/41235/31 "2017-11-23T16:11:48Z")
> [@The\_AntiChrist666\_Diablo13](#): > > Maybe my idea isnt the RIGHT way to fix cloaking Cloaking doesn’t need “fixing”. People who are afraid of AFK people need fixing. ---
**Author:** ![The\_AntiChrist666\_Diablo13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_antichrist666_diablo13/32/35162_2.png) [@The\_AntiChrist666\_Diablo13](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_AntiChrist666_Diablo13)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-camping-the-meta/41235/32 "2017-11-23T16:15:45Z")
wow you got a like before you even posted that, I was here within 1 second 🏍🍠:middleparrot: ---
**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-camping-the-meta/41235/33 "2017-11-23T16:32:39Z")
Nope you turned up 4 mins after (unless it took you 4 minutes to write that one line and press the Submit button). ---
**Author:** ![The\_AntiChrist666\_Diablo13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_antichrist666_diablo13/32/35162_2.png) [@The\_AntiChrist666\_Diablo13](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_AntiChrist666_Diablo13)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-camping-the-meta/41235/34 "2017-11-23T16:34:58Z")
Maybe the notifciation was delayed than 🎏 Edit: I actually took me 4 minutes because of getting the emotes, nice like tho 🤽‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![Julanna\_Egnald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/julanna_egnald/32/275350_2.png) [@Julanna\_Egnald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Julanna_Egnald)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-camping-the-meta/41235/35 "2017-11-23T16:44:48Z")
First: IB4L, hopefully. Second: How can such a prolific forum user such as yourself not have seen this very topic brought up multiple times, and shot down each time? As others have mentioned, there is a dedicated, dev-created sticky devoted to this one topic, and was even there for a couple years on the old forums. And yet not one idea in all those hundreds of posts could name either a sufficient reason to nerf cloaking, or a reasonable compromise to deal with it. The very idea you posted on this thread has been given more times than I can remember and has been debunked every time. If you think your ideas are so great, then try to come up with something original and don’t rehash someone else’s tired arguments. ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Falcon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_falcon/32/143229_2.png) [@CCP\_Falcon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Falcon)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-camping-the-meta/41235/36 "2017-11-23T16:49:48Z")
> [@Wander\_Prian](#): > > Oh look, another one of these… > > A) [https://forums.eveonline.com/t/main-afk-cloaky-thread/](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/main-afk-cloaky-thread/) > > Use that and don’t make more threads. > > B) AFK-cloaking is a symptom of over-reliance on Intel given by local. Fix local, no need to AFK-cloak > > C) Read Falcons response: Main AFK cloaky thread This. Thread closed. ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Falcon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_falcon/32/143229_2.png) [@CCP\_Falcon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Falcon)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-camping-the-meta/41235/37 "2017-11-23T16:49:52Z")
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