# Cloaky mwd trick enough already **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 6, 2020, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411 "2020-11-06T11:09:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Aegareth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aegareth/32/339687_2.png) [@Aegareth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aegareth)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411/22 "2020-11-06T13:31:38Z")
it’s a punctuation what’s your point ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411/23 "2020-11-06T13:34:33Z")
Wrong, its the tear Ive shed from your 20 year old excuses for your failure to deal with a 10 year old feature. Plenty of ways to catch a ship doing this trick. To say only “r\*tards” fail is the No True Scotsman fallacy, you should probably stop digging before people less polite than me show up. ---
**Author:** ![Aegareth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aegareth/32/339687_2.png) [@Aegareth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aegareth)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411/25 "2020-11-06T13:40:43Z")
yes keep replying, I bet you love reading your own post and tell yourself how smart and eloquent you are ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411/26 "2020-11-06T13:40:58Z")
> [@Aegareth](#): > > . CCP has ■■■■■■ with your PvE ESS update Lol now thats some classic GD comedy right there, ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411/27 "2020-11-06T13:42:03Z")
Dude youve just spent a thread admitting you cant gate camp for toffee. If you need a last word go for it, but really, man, I hope your homies arent reading this. ---
**Author:** ![Aegareth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aegareth/32/339687_2.png) [@Aegareth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aegareth)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411/28 "2020-11-06T13:49:56Z")
that “last word” argument is fkn dumb. you just turned this thread into a conversation about yourself winning “the last word” fight… “oh, he had to say the last word, I’m the better man” “but he didn’t say the last word because I reverse told him not to, I’m thebetter man” do you just post in other peoples threads to listen to yourself speak so to speak? got nothing better to do but to try so so hard to make yourself believe you’re smart by starting an argument with someone on the internet then steering the argument as best you can just purely so you can win the argument. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411/29 "2020-11-06T13:55:20Z")
Didn’t you embarrass yourself enough already? Really, you should just stop ---
**Author:** ![Aegareth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aegareth/32/339687_2.png) [@Aegareth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aegareth)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411/30 "2020-11-06T13:59:00Z")
you’re mistaken in thinking I care what some rando on the forums thinks ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411/31 "2020-11-06T14:03:36Z")
I think your issue is the slow internet response speed more than anything else. > [@Aegareth](#): > > i try decloaking with a dramiel sometimes, I will watch my ship fly through the targets and by the time they re-appear on overview they’re already warped off. > > so basically from target appearing on overview, double clicking, my ship aligning target, decloak and re-lock ← that all takes longer than 10 seconds if you live in australia because there is about 500-1000ms delay between each action The way to stop people using this is a fast ship on the ball to decloak before they can get up to speed for an instant warp. I used to be in an alliance with Aussies who still managed to catch stuff despite the added difficulty with the ping. But overall the gameplay is quite balanced and it is not quite the I win you think it is, it is possible to screw it up and ship fitting also impacts it. In fact I think it is one of the best mechanics in the game because it makes people take risks. @Karak_Terrel is a ganker, that he is defending this mechanic is totally to his credit. ---
**Author:** ![Aegareth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aegareth/32/339687_2.png) [@Aegareth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aegareth)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411/32 "2020-11-06T14:05:49Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > In fact I think it is one of the best mechanics in the game because it makes people take risks. interesting perspective actually, those targets may otherwise not risk the trip to lowsec if they couldn’t use this trick. i think you may have just convinced me to look at this another way. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411/33 "2020-11-06T14:06:34Z")
Glad to hear it, and respect to you for looking at it from another perspective. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411/34 "2020-11-06T14:14:25Z")
Funny, I wrote the very same thing about risk taking and he didn’t get it then. > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > If there wasn’t this trick they would not have even attempted to enter lowsec because why would they if they don’t think they have at least a chance to escape. twice even > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > It also reeks of idiocy, because you don’t even realize that people who prepare now with the MWD trick will not suddenly just jump into your trap without using other means to secure their route. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411/35 "2020-11-06T14:16:55Z")
Yes you did, which I respected. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411/36 "2020-11-06T15:12:00Z")
\*_hands Dracvlad some cookies and hot cacao\*_ 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Optimus\_Maximus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/optimus_maximus/32/368882_2.png) [@Optimus\_Maximus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Optimus_Maximus)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411/38 "2020-11-06T16:39:33Z")
Script? Isn’t that bannable? ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411/39 "2020-11-06T16:40:00Z")
Yeah! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411/40 "2020-11-06T16:56:24Z")
I know how it feels. I used to hunt FW targets in high-sec and my huge ping was constantly making me crazy. Asking support “why this indy ship warped faster than I can lock in my frigate?” and getting answer “You started to lock him 15 seconds after he engaged warp operation” while in my Universe I pressed “lock” button immediately after him appearing on my overview… 😬 ---
**Author:** ![Loradan\_Illstari](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/loradan_illstari/32/248107_2.png) [@Loradan\_Illstari](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Loradan_Illstari)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411/41 "2020-11-06T17:21:55Z")
As if low sec wasn’t dead enough. If you make low sec that dangerous your gate camp won’t have any targets at all. People will just avoid it entirely. You can already prop a hictor up on a gate with a few remote sebos and infa-point someone with impunity. Just because something is designed to have risk doesn’t mean it should be certain death. There’s no guarantee for them and likewise there’s no guarantee for you. Maybe you get them, maybe you don’t. Maybe they get away. Maybe they don’t. More than one person has botched the MWD cloak trick. ---
**Author:** ![Brewlar\_Kuvakei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brewlar_kuvakei/32/422694_2.png) [@Brewlar\_Kuvakei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brewlar_Kuvakei)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411/42 "2020-11-06T20:25:16Z")
Yeah because mining bots scripting 23/7 for years don’t exist & I’m sure peeps will get caught scripting 0.000001% of their eve time on single ticks. ---
**Author:** ![Optimus\_Maximus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/optimus_maximus/32/368882_2.png) [@Optimus\_Maximus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Optimus_Maximus)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411/43 "2020-11-06T20:45:38Z")
Well if they get caught it’s game over. They lose all their accounts. Just to exploit a server tick to catch a silly ship. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cloaky-mwd-trick-enough-already/278411.md?page=3)