# Closed - Survey on the gender gap in EVE Online **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 15, 2021, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377 "2021-06-15T19:38:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377/71 "2021-06-16T16:15:19Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > You sure are pretty for a man. Natalie is just one of my many Alts. She’s pretty because it helps with spying and related tasks. I sure hope you don’t look like your avatar, that’s all I’m gonna say. ---
**Author:** ![Derath\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/derath_ellecon/32/289725_2.png) [@Derath\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Derath_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377/72 "2021-06-16T16:16:50Z")
> [@Natalie\_Patrovita](#): > > What did you expect exactly? That we all get on our knees before our Gender Masters, fill out that slanted and biased “survey” and tearfully apologize for being **Men**?! I’m pretty sure the answer is yes? ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377/73 "2021-06-16T16:19:17Z")
> [@Derath\_Ellecon](#): > > I’m pretty sure the answer is yes? LOL, I was hoping for a fat resounding ‘NO’ but nothing surprises me anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Derath\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/derath_ellecon/32/289725_2.png) [@Derath\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Derath_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377/74 "2021-06-16T16:20:12Z")
> [@Natalie\_Patrovita](#): > > LOL, I was hoping for a fat resounding ‘NO’ but nothing surprises me anymore. Don’t get me wrong. the “correct” answer is no. But to anyone who would actually come up with that survey the answer is a most definite yes. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377/75 "2021-06-16T16:23:00Z")
> [@Natalie\_Patrovita](#): > > She’s pretty because it helps with spying and related tasks. No kidding? Dressing up like a women to take advantage of boys. Boys who apparently only think with their little head. That’s quite the ringing endoement of your alleged gender. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377/76 "2021-06-16T16:24:18Z")
> [@Derath\_Ellecon](#): > > But to anyone who would actually come up with that survey the answer is a most definite yes. I understand that perfectly but I was asking @Avaelica_Kuershin and _he_ didn’t come up with the thread, although he seems to have thought that this kind of threads would have us all hold hands and sing Kumbaya. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377/78 "2021-06-16T16:37:34Z")
> [@Natalie\_Patrovita](#): > > I didn’t specifically say _how_ it helps Yeah. You did. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377/79 "2021-06-16T16:41:15Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > Yeah. You did. In your head I did. Natalie Patrovita is but one of my alts. I have avatars that look like women and others that look like men. What’s your point exactly? ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377/80 "2021-06-16T16:48:51Z")
Hello Lucas, Please link a copy of the IRB approval for this project involving human subjects. Thank you, Gadget ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377/81 "2021-06-16T17:10:09Z")
> [@Natalie\_Patrovita](#): > > I have avatars that look like women and others that look like men. Of course you do 🙄 Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377/82 "2021-06-16T17:20:40Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > Of course you do. No, _you_ are the liar, the manipulator and the vicious one in here. Don’t take your case for a generality. And you still haven’t told what your point is but I’m wagering you have no point whatsoever. You’re just trolling these forum, that’s all you do. I even doubt you play EVE these days. You just hang around the forum to sow discord and insinuate things that don’t exist. > [@Natalie\_Patrovita](#): > > What’s your point exactly? You have none. Bye. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377/83 "2021-06-16T17:31:20Z")
A boy dressed like a girl and made of straw. You should be in Ripley’s. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Bernie\_Nator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bernie_nator/32/390552_2.png) [@Bernie\_Nator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bernie_Nator)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377/84 "2021-06-16T17:50:47Z")
This doesnt exactly sound scientific. I’m gonna need to see some credentials. ---
**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377/85 "2021-06-16T17:51:40Z")
After starting the survey, I stopped after it became clear that many questions were directing what final conclusions would be reached; almost as if the original author had already reached a verdict. That’s not backlash, that’s calling poor science out. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377/86 "2021-06-16T18:31:06Z")
A bona fide questionnaire for a Master thesis should at the very least mention the name of the school, the department involved and perhaps even the promoter. ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377/87 "2021-06-16T18:33:09Z")
> [@Buoytender\_Bob](#): > > After starting the survey, I stopped after it became clear that many questions were directing what final conclusions would be reached; almost as if the original author had already reached a verdict. > That’s not backlash, that’s calling poor science out. …❤… ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377/88 "2021-06-16T18:33:30Z")
> [@Bernie\_Nator](#): > > This doesnt exactly sound scientific. I’m gonna need to see some credentials …❤… ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377/89 "2021-06-16T18:38:03Z")
> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > A bona fide questionnaire for a Master thesis should at the very least mention the name of the school, the department involved and perhaps even the promoter. Pseudo science doesn’t need all that. All it needs are long fanciful strings of words to sound legit, a few so-called “_experts_” to reinforce the fallacies and a few million gullible sheep willing to gob everything and anything that tickle their ears. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377/90 "2021-06-16T18:44:16Z")
Let’s just say that whoever is supposed to follow up on this student is not paying attention, to the point that I am not sure if this is even a real thesis program. ---
**Author:** ![Natalie\_Patrovita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natalie_patrovita/32/253528_2.png) [@Natalie\_Patrovita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natalie_Patrovita)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377/91 "2021-06-16T18:51:35Z")
> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > Let’s just say that whoever is supposed to follow up on this student is not paying attention Who would that be, a professor? Hell, they’re even more lost than the students themselves. > [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > to the point that I am not sure if this is even a real thesis program. I doubt it too but I’ve been surprised with Mediocrity being called “courageous” “avant-garde” and “exemplary” before so really nothing surprises me anymore. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/closed-survey-on-the-gender-gap-in-eve-online/316377.md?page=5)