# \[CMC\] Issuance of Censure

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [December 5, 2017, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562 "2017-12-05T14:09:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/21 "2017-12-06T10:40:10Z")

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Making demands of a senior officer?

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**Author:** ![Che\_Biko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/che_biko/32/500836_2.png) [@Che\_Biko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Che_Biko)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/22 "2017-12-06T18:25:45Z")

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Can anyone inform me when Adams-haan became a member of the CMC, and who the president of the CMC is?

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/23 "2017-12-06T18:50:13Z")

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Yeah…

Conducting stuff like this quietly, behind closed doors, has benefits for the dignity and privacy of everybody involved. It works particularly well where the integrity of the judging entity is pretty much past questioning, for one reason or another.

If the subject is definitely going to cry foul if it doesn’t go well for her, though, dignity maybe goes secondary to letting everybody see exactly what’s happening, how, and why.

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**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/24 "2017-12-06T19:51:50Z")

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My understanding is that the CMC is composed of all corporations and pilots of the Caldari militia that are complying and coordinating under the charter. Adams-haan evidently took his post approximately a month ago. I believe the president’s callsign is CPTRINGO.

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**Author:** ![MantelGlobalIndustries](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mantelglobalindustries/32/380599_2.png) [@MantelGlobalIndustries](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MantelGlobalIndustries)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/25 "2017-12-06T22:57:39Z")

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As of this time of writing, this situation has been resolved between Commander Kim and myself. I will not be responding to any further statements or questions posed here or elsewhere regarding this issue.

Edward Adams  
Commander  
Heiian Conglomerate

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/26 "2017-12-06T22:59:36Z")

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The case has been closed. I have no further issues with Gen. Adams.

D. Kim, Strike Commander,  
State Protectorate, CMC,  
Caldari State

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**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2017, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/27 "2017-12-06T23:03:00Z")

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Hope all went well.

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/28 "2017-12-07T00:23:42Z")

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… Okay … well, transparency, not so much, then.

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**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/29 "2017-12-07T00:32:16Z")

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Well that went about as far as I expected it to.

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**Author:** ![Tannia\_Ambrye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tannia_ambrye/32/410653_2.png) [@Tannia\_Ambrye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tannia_Ambrye)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/30 "2017-12-07T00:47:13Z")

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The CMC is a military based organization. Military isn’t typically known for transparency, state secrets and all.

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**Author:** ![Ria\_Nieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ria_nieyli/32/447728_2.png) [@Ria\_Nieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ria_Nieyli)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/31 "2017-12-07T02:08:24Z")

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That is disappointing.

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**Author:** ![Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charles_cambridge_schmidt/32/372217_2.png) [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charles_Cambridge_Schmidt)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/32 "2017-12-07T03:04:13Z")

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> [@Ria\_Nieyli](#):
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> That is disappointing.

5 ISK on one of them getting bitched out by their CO and being forced to play nice.

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 3:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/33 "2017-12-07T03:07:12Z")

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Well, sure, but once you start something like this…

Oh well.

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**Author:** ![Ria\_Nieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ria_nieyli/32/447728_2.png) [@Ria\_Nieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ria_Nieyli)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/34 "2017-12-07T09:25:14Z")

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There’s no playing nice with the manipulative bitch that Diana is.

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**Author:** ![Jason\_Galente](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jason_galente/32/383984_2.png) [@Jason\_Galente](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jason_Galente)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/35 "2017-12-11T19:46:09Z")

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Why am I not surprised?

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**Author:** ![Jason\_Galente](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jason_galente/32/383984_2.png) [@Jason\_Galente](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jason_Galente)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/36 "2017-12-11T19:47:27Z")

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Props to the entities involved for their professionalism. Perhaps this will be an opportunity for improvement in the general tone of things on this forum. I’ll give it a shot for my part.

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**Author:** ![Elmund\_Egivand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elmund_egivand/32/11038_2.png) [@Elmund\_Egivand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elmund_Egivand)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 3:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/37 "2017-12-12T03:02:04Z")

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You are expecting transparency from a State or State-aligned apparatus?

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/38 "2017-12-12T13:18:25Z")

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Not exactly, but, what I wasn’t expecting was a foot out the door followed by swift retraction. Or maybe more accurately, I was looking forward to seeing how it would play out. Now I don’t get to.

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**Author:** ![Tannia\_Ambrye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tannia_ambrye/32/410653_2.png) [@Tannia\_Ambrye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tannia_Ambrye)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/39 "2017-12-12T13:58:12Z")

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Namas, Ms Jenneth. Ms Kim is of high rank within the Caldari militia. It wouldn’t be prudent to make her shame a thing of public display, if it could be avoided.

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/40 "2017-12-12T14:04:26Z")

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> [@Tannia\_Ambrye](#):
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> It wouldn’t be prudent to make her shame a thing of public display, if it could be avoided.

I … fully understand the reasoning behind such a policy, Ms. Ambrye. Actually it’s a little impressive if CalMil is sticking to such a policy under, uh, these … particular … conditions.

Even if it seems like kind of an occasion for ironic remarks.

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