# \[CMC\] Issuance of Censure **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [December 5, 2017, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562 "2017-12-05T14:09:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/41 "2017-12-12T14:08:01Z")
> [@Tannia\_Ambrye](#): > > It wouldn’t be prudent to make her shame a thing of public display, if it could be avoided. If I’m not mistaken the censure was based atleast partially on conduct within these very forums. It is definately understandable for an organized coalition to not release specific details on such a matter, it is also not unheard of for issues of what appears to be a relatively minor matter (unless you consider mean words on the galnet at the same level as treason) to be addressed in the same medium as where the transgressions against coalition standards actually transpired, simply to show a face of solidarity and efficientness on the part of said coalition. ---
**Author:** ![Tannia\_Ambrye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tannia_ambrye/32/410653_2.png) [@Tannia\_Ambrye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tannia_Ambrye)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/42 "2017-12-12T14:26:06Z")
> [@Aria\_Jenneth](#): > > Actually it’s a little impressive if CalMil is sticking to such a policy under, uh, these … particular … conditions. Nerva , but the CMC may not see the IGS boards as a particular security concern Ms Jenneth. If the desired effect is achieved then that’s what matters. I admit that I am curious too, however. ---
**Author:** ![Ria\_Nieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ria_nieyli/32/447728_2.png) [@Ria\_Nieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ria_Nieyli)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/43 "2017-12-12T16:06:13Z")
> [@Tannia\_Ambrye](#): > > Nerva , but the CMC may not see the IGS boards as a particular security concern Ms Jenneth. If the desired effect is achieved then that’s what matters. I admit that I am curious too, however. Well, they should. Diana has been an ass to a lot of people and the current resolution reads as the CMC approving of her behaviour. It’s bound to piss someone off. ---
**Author:** ![Tannia\_Ambrye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tannia_ambrye/32/410653_2.png) [@Tannia\_Ambrye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tannia_Ambrye)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/44 "2017-12-12T16:10:40Z")
> [@Ria\_Nieyli](#): > > Well, they should. Diana has been an ass to a lot of people and the current resolution reads as the CMC approving of her behaviour. It’s bound to piss someone off. Namas, Ms Nieyli. Perhaps it is a you say. Telling me about it won’t resolve the issue though, will it? ---
**Author:** ![Ria\_Nieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ria_nieyli/32/447728_2.png) [@Ria\_Nieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ria_Nieyli)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/45 "2017-12-12T16:22:13Z")
> [@Tannia\_Ambrye](#): > > Namas, Ms Nieyli. Perhaps it is a you say. Telling me about it won’t resolve the issue though, will it? See, here’s the thing. They haven’t done anything to resolve it. They’re not telling since there’s nothing to tell. ---
**Author:** ![Tannia\_Ambrye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tannia_ambrye/32/410653_2.png) [@Tannia\_Ambrye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tannia_Ambrye)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/46 "2017-12-12T16:26:12Z")
> [@Ria\_Nieyli](#): > > See, here’s the thing. They haven’t done anything to resolve it. They’re not telling since there’s nothing to tell. Ms Kim has been less active in the forums as of late, and her comments a bit more restrained. What is your evidence that nothing was done, Ms Nieyli? ---
**Author:** ![Ria\_Nieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ria_nieyli/32/447728_2.png) [@Ria\_Nieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ria_Nieyli)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/47 "2017-12-12T16:27:07Z")
> [@Tannia\_Ambrye](#): > > Ms Kim has been less active in the forums as of late, and her comments a bit more restrained. What is your evidence that nothing was done, Ms Nieyli? She still has position within the CMC and the head on her shoulders. ---
**Author:** ![Tannia\_Ambrye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tannia_ambrye/32/410653_2.png) [@Tannia\_Ambrye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tannia_Ambrye)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/48 "2017-12-12T16:30:08Z")
> [@Ria\_Nieyli](#): > > She still has position within the loss of the CMC and the head on her shoulders. Is that the only evidence you’d accept for something being done, Ms Nieyli? That seems pretty absolute and, since Ms Kim’s a capsuleer, only the loss of the CMC position would have a chance at being permanent. ---
**Author:** ![Ria\_Nieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ria_nieyli/32/447728_2.png) [@Ria\_Nieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ria_Nieyli)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/49 "2017-12-12T16:33:13Z")
> [@Tannia\_Ambrye](#): > > Is that the only evidence you’d accept for something being done, Ms Nieyli? That seems pretty absolute and, since Ms Kim’s a capsuleer, only the loss of the CMC position would have a chance at being permanent. Given her transgressions against State and fellow Statist, yes. Endorsing what she has down is downright criminal in of itself. ---
**Author:** ![Tannia\_Ambrye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tannia_ambrye/32/410653_2.png) [@Tannia\_Ambrye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tannia_Ambrye)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/50 "2017-12-12T16:38:52Z")
> [@Ria\_Nieyli](#): > > Given her transgressions against State and fellow Statist, yes. Endorsing what she has down is downright criminal in of itself. Still, how does telling me solve anything, Ms Nieyli? Verifiable evidence will need to be brought to the CMC. I have little to no influence on CMC command’s decisions. ---
**Author:** ![Ria\_Nieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ria_nieyli/32/447728_2.png) [@Ria\_Nieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ria_Nieyli)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/51 "2017-12-12T16:40:55Z")
> [@Tannia\_Ambrye](#): > > Still, how does telling me solve anything, Ms Nieyli? Verifiable evidence will need to be brought to the CMC. I have little to no influence on CMC command’s decisions. To my understanding, evidence has been brought forward and ignored. Telling you doesn’t solve anything, true. It seems like talking to anyone won’t bring a solution forward, because one party is not looking for it ---
**Author:** ![Tannia\_Ambrye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tannia_ambrye/32/410653_2.png) [@Tannia\_Ambrye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tannia_Ambrye)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/52 "2017-12-12T16:43:36Z")
> [@Ria\_Nieyli](#): > > It seems like talking to anyone won’t bring a solution forward, because one party is not looking for it Ah, I see. I wish I could help you out there. I don’t know what I could do though in this case. ---
**Author:** ![Ria\_Nieyli](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ria_nieyli/32/447728_2.png) [@Ria\_Nieyli](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ria_Nieyli)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/53 "2017-12-12T16:54:10Z")
In, hindsight, I should not be surprised. A lot of similar happenings have been swept under the rug over the years. This is just the cherry on the top. At this point the CMC can be considered pirates, with a few unfortunate Statist caught in it. ---
**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/54 "2017-12-13T15:45:40Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/0/005d0d32fdf8beb788e62fed910297b5a6794322.png) So restrained. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/0/300fac4ca1901fb70303daf265893bfac392608d.png) So very restrained… ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/1/c1363d0194655974a7a227acf123a1bcec8cd2f2.png) ---
**Author:** ![Aergri\_Evingod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aergri_evingod/32/116437_2.png) [@Aergri\_Evingod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aergri_Evingod)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/55 "2017-12-13T15:57:59Z")
Well she seems to be restrained on using her voice as others would use their foot. ---
**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/56 "2017-12-13T16:04:34Z")
I’m sure she’d happily invite the entire republic to duel with her one by one in her home system. ---
**Author:** ![Tannia\_Ambrye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tannia_ambrye/32/410653_2.png) [@Tannia\_Ambrye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tannia_Ambrye)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/57 "2017-12-13T16:56:46Z")
In all fairness, this happend after my post Ms Ember. I had hoped that Ms Kim would use this as an opportunity to challenge herself. My disappointment is real, but unsurprising. ---
**Author:** ![Lasairiona\_Raske](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lasairiona_raske/32/467893_2.png) [@Lasairiona\_Raske](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lasairiona_Raske)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/58 "2017-12-13T17:07:15Z")
Can we just be glad she’s quieted down for a bit? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-issuance-of-censure/43562/59 "2018-03-13T17:07:19Z")
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