# \[CMC\] YC119 Caldari Art (Propaganda) Contest **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Tags:** event\ **Created:** [November 18, 2017, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210 "2017-11-18T10:11:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/69 "2017-11-22T18:21:23Z")
Stations were built before the war started, what would you suggest now, surrendering State assets to the enemy? Having station in there does not equate to collaboration. If I will build an astrahus in Villore, will I become a collaborationist? That’s just ridiculous to think about… and I really doubt that astrahus would stand there for long, but who knows!.. Maybe I should try something like that and use it as a base of operation in the heart of the Federation. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/70 "2017-11-22T18:23:20Z")
> [@Makoto\_Priano](#): > > Lastly, I find it deeply entertaining that you are concerned about Ishukone’s supposed (by you) insult to the CEP, when you yourself deride the CEP’s statements the moment they so much as imply something you disagree with. Oh wow, just look at that. Now I am guilty in having a personal OPINION. Would you put me to a wall for this? Or maybe you grew some BLACK EAGLE WINGS on your back, to hunt down people for their opinions? So far neither of my opinions have ever prevented me from doing my duty to the State. ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/71 "2017-11-22T18:27:05Z")
Surrendering assets? Naturally, no. However, it goes to demonstrate that not all Megacorporations consider the Federation the enemy, not in your usual MUST DIE sense. An antagonist, sure; a political rival, sure; but an enemy? You are trying to say that Ishukone is a black sheep, a pariah, a _collaborationist_ in that ugly, politically-wrought way that people usually use when they want the party in question to suffer some injury. And, yes, Ishukone is the most outspoken in its desire for multilateral ventures. But need I remind you that Ishukone remains on the CEP? That Mens Reppola remains a citizen of the State, not a terrorist outlaw? Clearly, then, you are mistaken. > [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > Oh wow, just look at that. Now I am guilty in having a personal OPINION. You malign _everyone else_ for having opinions, telling jokes, or even making honest mistakes. Why should anyone afford you the courtesy you never afford to others? ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/72 "2017-11-22T18:29:44Z")
> [@Makoto\_Priano](#): > > You malign everyone else for having opinions, telling jokes, or even making honest mistakes I am really not interested in continuing a conversation with such a liar as yourself. Begone. ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/73 "2017-11-22T18:31:15Z")
Sorry. Not how it works. You still haven’t addressed that six of eight Megacorporations are fine with open borders with the Federation. You of course haven’t admitted that you want courtesies that you don’t extend to anyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/74 "2017-11-22T18:53:37Z")
That’s how it DOES. I have addressed anything that was necessary, I have shown your point being wrong, and not feeling there is any merit in any further conversation with you or any truth to be found by talking to you. If you have unresolved questions, you may try your luck sending me a mail, or starting a new thread. Of course, I give no guarantees I will grant you answers, considering tone of your questions and your history. D. Kim, Strike Commander, State Protectorate, CMC, Caldari State ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/75 "2017-11-22T18:56:58Z")
Your continued insistence that a State Megacorporation with standing on the CEP is somehow worse than a terrorist organization repeatedly denounced by the CEP remains relevant, doubly so as you have codified your personal bias into the rules of your competition. You have, what’s more, repeatedly evaded points relevant to both this, and to your conduct in public. You may attempt to dismiss me all you like, Kim, but you have no authority to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/76 "2017-11-22T19:10:21Z")
> [@Makoto\_Priano](#): > > You have, what’s more, repeatedly evaded points relevant to both this, and to your conduct in public. I gave answers about Ishukone. The rest of your questions are irrelevant to the discussion. And it’s your conduct in public that is questionable. “You malign everyone else for having opinions, telling jokes, or even making honest mistakes” - that was your quote, should I stamp it on your forehead so you will finally see whose conduct is not acceptable in public? Cease and desist. D. Kim, Strike Commander, State Protectorate, CMC, Caldari State ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/77 "2017-11-22T19:17:44Z")
My questions derive specifically from your responses. That’s how dialectic works. Further, you have not acknowledged this point. > [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > that every other State Corporation considers an enemy. [Six of eight megacorporations voted in favor of reopening borders with the Federation.](https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/caldari-state-relaxes-border-restrictions-with-federation/) Ergo, you are provably wrong about ‘every other State Corporation consider[ing the Federation an enemy.]’ Considering that you are on record as saying that ‘enemies of the State MUST DIE,’ and one does not necessarily trade with those one intends to kill, by your definitions your statement was incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/78 "2017-11-22T19:20:40Z")
> [@Makoto\_Priano](#): > > That’s how dialectic works. It doesn’t work if you reply with crap like that: > [@Makoto\_Priano](#): > > You malign everyone else for having opinions, telling jokes, or even making honest mistakes. Now I repeat: > [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > I have addressed anything that was necessary, I have shown your point being wrong, and not feeling there is any merit in any further conversation with you or any truth to be found by talking to you. > > If you have unresolved questions, you may try your luck sending me a mail, or starting a new thread. > > Of course, I give no guarantees I will grant you answers, considering tone of your questions and your history. D. Kim, Strike Commander, State Protectorate, CMC, Caldari State ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/79 "2017-11-22T19:21:16Z")
You still refuse to address incorrect statements about the State’s political positions. ---
**Author:** ![Lasairiona\_Raske](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lasairiona_raske/32/467893_2.png) [@Lasairiona\_Raske](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lasairiona_Raske)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/80 "2017-11-22T19:55:08Z")
@Makoto_Priano do you have a bingo yet? ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/81 "2017-11-22T20:05:50Z")
> [@Makoto\_Priano](#): > > You still refuse to address incorrect statements about the State’s political positions. You, who openly lie about Caldari Officer on public, dare to poke me with “incorrect statements”?! Begone, fool. ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/82 "2017-11-22T20:18:52Z")
Please address the point. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/83 "2017-11-22T20:25:36Z")
Please buy new reading comprehension implant and run these lines through it: > [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > I have addressed anything that was necessary, I have shown your point being wrong, and not feeling there is any merit in any further conversation with you or any truth to be found by talking to you. > > If you have unresolved questions, you may try your luck sending me a mail, or starting a new thread. > > Of course, I give no guarantees I will grant you answers, considering tone of your questions and your history. ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/84 "2017-11-22T20:28:06Z")
You’ve written your bias and bigotry into the competition, and have not settled the matter to my satisfaction. If you seek an end to this discussion you must either convince _me_ that Ishukone should be mentioned in the same breath as the Templis Dragonaur, or you should amend the competition rules to allow Ishukone to stand on the same footing as the other seven Megacorporations. So, please address the point instead of weaseling around. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/85 "2017-11-22T20:31:22Z")
Your satisfaction is not my problem. ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/86 "2017-11-22T20:33:07Z")
Well, then, the issue stands. I’d say you’ve slandered Reppola-haan and the Ishukone Corporation, but that would imply your words had enough weight to cause damage, which would be a misstatement. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/87 "2017-11-22T20:34:26Z")
There is no issue except your slanders and lies, Priano. Begone. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/88 "2017-11-22T20:34:36Z")
Spirits wept, can you two bloody convo or something instead? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210.md?page=5)