# \[CMC\] YC119 Caldari Art (Propaganda) Contest

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Tags:** event\
**Created:** [November 18, 2017, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210 "2017-11-18T10:11:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 7

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**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/129 "2017-12-18T11:57:07Z")

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Hi  
I have not submitted any propaganda.  
I do not intend to.

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**Author:** ![Julianni\_Avala](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/julianni_avala/32/356243_2.png) [@Julianni\_Avala](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Julianni_Avala)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/130 "2017-12-18T22:43:49Z")

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I believe Miss Kim was saying that types of the propaganda that is defined as “biased or misleading in nature” will not be accepted. Not that she wasn’t accepting your own works.

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**Author:** ![Elmund\_Egivand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elmund_egivand/32/11038_2.png) [@Elmund\_Egivand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elmund_Egivand)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/131 "2017-12-19T02:28:03Z")

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There is no such thing as propaganda that isn’t biased or misleading.

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**Author:** ![Julianni\_Avala](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/julianni_avala/32/356243_2.png) [@Julianni\_Avala](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Julianni_Avala)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 4:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/132 "2017-12-19T04:54:58Z")

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Of course not. My point was that she was not necessarily saying she wouldn’t accept Miss Ember’s specific entries.

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**Author:** ![Halcyon\_Ember](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/halcyon_ember/32/131702_2.png) [@Halcyon\_Ember](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Halcyon_Ember)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/133 "2017-12-19T08:56:31Z")

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I truly wouldn’t wish her to accept my entry.

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**Author:** ![Aergri\_Evingod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aergri_evingod/32/116437_2.png) [@Aergri\_Evingod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aergri_Evingod)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/134 "2017-12-19T17:45:10Z")

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> [@Julianni\_Avala](#):
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> I believe Miss Kim was saying that types of the propaganda that is defined as “biased or misleading in nature” will not be accepted. Not that she wasn’t accepting your own works.

So this contest is about art that is relative defined biased on bias and relative defined misleading about misleading entries. Great I reckon I have found a new level of irony being not, not, not objective and not, not, not true.

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/135 "2017-12-20T03:54:56Z")

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> [@Aergri\_Evingod](#):
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> So this contest is about art that is relative defined biased on bias and relative defined misleading about misleading entries. Great I reckon I have found a new level of irony being not, not, not objective and not, not, not true.

No, it is about art, that is designed to show true state of affairs in order to represent Caldari State in positive light and Gallente Federation in negative.

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**Author:** ![Aergri\_Evingod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aergri_evingod/32/116437_2.png) [@Aergri\_Evingod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aergri_Evingod)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/136 "2017-12-20T04:15:16Z")

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> [@Diana\_Kim](#):
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> > [@Aergri\_Evingod](#):
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> > So this contest is about art that is relative defined biased on bias and relative defined misleading about misleading entries. Great I reckon I have found a new level of irony being not, not, not objective and not, not, not true.
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> No, it is about art, that is designed to show true state of affairs in order to represent Caldari State in positive light and Gallente Federation in negative.

As a wise person I know woud put it:

I reckon I can’t shake off the feeling that here both of us are presenting the same description in different ways, in different light, due to different allegiance.

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**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/137 "2017-12-20T14:38:30Z")

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> [@Diana\_Kim](#):
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> true state of affairs

There are three truths. Your truth, my truth and the truth.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/138 "2017-12-20T14:59:13Z")

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Miz, I have an entry for your contest.

I would like to submit a piece of real-time performance art that depicts Diana Kim indulging in public masturbation, appeals to mass opinion (democracy), and flagrant self-indulgence (hedonism).

[Here](https://forums.eveonline.com/c/fiction-portal/igs) is the public posting of this massive, all-encompassing piece of truly inspired performance art.

I am submitting on behalf of the following artist:

Diana Kim  
Veteran of the Lobotomy Wars,  
Shrike Commander  
Federal Propaganda Asset  
A Pox on _All_ the Houses.

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**Author:** ![Tannia\_Ambrye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tannia_ambrye/32/410653_2.png) [@Tannia\_Ambrye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tannia_Ambrye)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/139 "2017-12-20T15:00:55Z")

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> [@Diana\_Kim](#):
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> it is about art, that is designed to show true state of affairs in order to represent Caldari State in positive light and Gallente Federation in negative.

If that’s the objective then won’t presenting the all of the facts reveal what the truth of the situation is? There’s no need to paint one side as negative and the other as positive, just have all the facts and strong, valid arguments verified by the facts that the other side can’t dismantle. Right?

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**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/140 "2017-12-20T15:08:36Z")

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… are you trying to make me give the Kimling a prize?

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/141 "2017-12-20T15:10:31Z")

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I figure she’s disqualified anyway because it would be too easy. But you know, if that’s the winning entry, I’ll certainly accept on her behalf. Could use another Lif.

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/142 "2017-12-20T16:36:42Z")

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> [@Teinyhr](#):
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> There are three truths. Your truth, my truth and the truth.

The truth is only one, it reflects facts only and it doesn’t depend on opinions.

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**Author:** ![Slayer\_Liberator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/slayer_liberator/32/398086_2.png) [@Slayer\_Liberator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Slayer_Liberator)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/143 "2017-12-20T22:01:31Z")

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You are correct. However, you and just about every other human see the truth with at least some degree of bias that will cloud the truth.

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**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/144 "2017-12-21T19:49:05Z")

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Seriously guys, since sockpuppets whined to the man and got the entries removed, I need them sent to me directly in order to remember who had what, or I can’t make a judgment and hand out the prizes.

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**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/145 "2017-12-21T19:55:44Z")

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Ms. Del’thul, if you’ll contact me directly, I believe some of my staff have preserved the entries. I’m not sure I have full documentation on who submitted them, however. Perhaps Galnet archival sites might help?

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/146 "2017-12-21T20:24:31Z")

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Dear trolls, yes, both of you, you know whom I am talking about. Stop using my thread for your crap. If you want to insist to spamming IGS with your nonsence - do it. But do not ever dare to post ANYTHING in ANY of MY threads from now on. If I will see at least ONE reply of any of you disregarding what you write, I’ll make sure that every of your threads will get “warmest” of welcomes.

Now, get the hell out of here, and thanks in advance.

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**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/147 "2017-12-21T20:28:20Z")

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> [@Diana\_Kim](#):
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> But do not ever dare to post ANYTHING

ANYTHING

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**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/cmc-yc119-caldari-art-propaganda-contest/40210/148 "2017-12-21T20:49:18Z")

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> You don’t own the IGS.  
> Besides, it’s not in your power to tell others how to behave after what you have been displaying.

With due respect, Ms. Kim, be the change you want to see in the world.

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