# CODE. announces February contest (win up to 12 billion isk) **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [January 16, 2019, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811 "2019-01-16T13:04:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/304 "2019-02-06T23:13:08Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > When you artificially constrain your options, it is hard to get out of your box. Which box? I’m not artificially constraining my options. I’m doing exactly what I want and like to do. This is no different from you “artificially constraining your options” when you choose to let your sec status drop… Actually, you’re arguably constraining your options a lot more than I do, but it doesn’t matter and you don’t care because it doesn’t really prevent you from doing what you want to do. Why would you talk about that as if it was a problem I have but you don’t? Makes no sense… > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > It’s not that Knowledgeminer hates ganking, or thinks its evil, but he voluntarily restrains himself from taking more effective action. Every time someone wonders why I don’t do this or that to stop a gank I know he/she is not getting it. What you all seem to be missing is I don’t care if the victim dies or not, other than for the _challenge_ of being able to save him/her. It’s not like I would like to do whatever I could to save someone from being ganked, but restrain myself from doing certain things that would allow me to accomplish that. It’s that **I simply don’t care. I’m not willing to sacrifice anything to save a victim that doesn’t bother to avoid being ganked in the first place.** I don’t care if the victim dies for the very same reason you think I shouldn’t be protecting him/her… > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Knowledgeminer is so predictable, that it is trivial to avoid him altogether. Anyanka isn’t getting beat up and wrecked, angry and frustrated by her failures. She is voluntarily providing him with content. It’s more like charity work. LOL. It’s true that Anyanka doesn’t get angry or anything, but the way you expressed it is… ROFLMAO, if this isn’t in your bingo for victims already you should definitely add it: _CODE is so predictable that it is trivial to avoid them altogether, but I let you gank me to provide you with content. It was charity work._🤣 🤣 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Kali\_Pijunn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kali_pijunn/32/410954_2.png) [@Kali\_Pijunn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kali_Pijunn)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/305 "2019-02-06T23:24:29Z")
According to the [Ganking Planer](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10zZ1e5X5Xeggzq9ltTwqu2YJdxaIgv-T3FM1m5dmFuA/edit?usp=sharing) (sic) ~25. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/306 "2019-02-06T23:39:35Z")
> Which box? I’m not artificially constraining my options. I’m doing exactly what I want and like to do. Come now, you seem like an intelligent fellow. Surely you are familiar with Plato’s allegory of the cave? We are all inside boxes, which we cannot see. You are indeed in a box of your own making. I am sure that I am as well, but your box is quite visible to me, even if mine appears invisible and filled only with the loving embrace of James. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/307 "2019-02-07T07:09:29Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Herein lies the problem. If you don’t enjoy anti-ganking, you are already demoralized. We aren’t the problem, But here lies the issue which is detailed in this thread, the whole incident around AG using thrashers to blow up freighter wrecks and the speed that Miniluv got CCP to change it was what demoralized a lot of people that I was playing with including myself. When that happened I gave up on doing anything to oppose freighter ganking because we were not just playing against you chaps, but CCP’s incompetence too. That was the only game play that was similar to the gankers in terms of cost and effort that AG alts could do that was really effective, and boom emergent gameplay removed because Miniluv was hurting… > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Typical AG mentality, “we could win, because we have nothing against winning, we just have other things to do…” Thomas is not going to set himself up with kill rights, for what he does that would be an error. It is not difficult to understand. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Here, we see another misconception. Knowledgeminer is so predictable, that it is trivial to avoid him altogether. Anyanka isn’t getting beat up and wrecked, angry and frustrated by her failures. She is voluntarily providing him with content. It’s more like charity work. She enjoys the added challenge of deliberately engaging with Knowledgeminer, whereas a soy drinker like me would just bypass the nuisance altogether. That was the bit that made me laugh. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/308 "2019-02-07T07:27:03Z")
Oh so that is how people are wasting time on forums and in game. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/309 "2019-02-07T07:32:16Z")
Me, I am mining the ore for another nidhoggur. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/310 "2019-02-07T07:57:41Z")
You can have the right to blow up wrecks, in return I either want gankers to receive ship insurance, or miners lose their ship insurance. Deal? ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/311 "2019-02-07T08:00:21Z")
A+ for the role-play. But the subtext… No pilots. No recruits. No relevance. Well, you had a good run. I’ll give you that. Now leave with some dignity. o7 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/312 "2019-02-07T08:03:05Z")
I can only assume you are talking to AG? It’s a little unclear, because their roleplay is pretty weak, but I guess if that is what you are into? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/314 "2019-02-07T08:11:15Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > You can have the right to blow up wrecks, in return I either want gankers to receive ship insurance, or miners lose their ship insurance. Deal? For me the damage is done, I have no intention of doing anything in game in terms of opposing freighter ganking, apart from my own efforts which are easy and effective, like using DST’s. I said at the time I would reverse the DCU EHP affect for freighters which to me was a poor trade for emergent game play. However let me be blunt, it was a blessing in disguise because it made me walk away from this terrible game play. At this point I think the freighter gankers can wallow in their boring gameplay. It is done and dusted at this point, but when you talk about being defeatist it came down to CCP to make that happen. People will of course say things like use bigger ships etc., but the AG cannot afford that for what is to me obvious reasons in terms of no income from opposing ganks and the low SP of the alts. If CCP had changed in this in a staged over time manner so we could have handled it over time in terms of SP it would have been better. But going from a Thrasher to a Tornado in one go was too much… ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/315 "2019-02-07T08:16:40Z")
I don’t see any reason for personal attacks. That’s not necessary. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/316 "2019-02-07T11:54:58Z")
Oh, he’s like that regardless of the thread, and regardless of the poster 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/317 "2019-02-07T12:06:46Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/b/7b3e95839e54d7d391ec36bb790c058b626d0fe2.gif) Nothing to see here, move along. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/318 "2019-02-07T14:30:08Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I told people it was lame gameplay that was not worth opposing, Ah yes, you guys remember those pages and pages and pages and pages of Dracvlad telling people _not_ to oppose us? 🥑 ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/319 "2019-02-07T14:32:04Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > For me the damage is done, I have no intention of doing anything in game in terms of opposing freighter ganking This is our goal, to break the carebear spirit. Praise James 315. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/320 "2019-02-07T14:53:21Z")
'Member when we was having a blast going through freighters all night long? I 'member I miss atron fleets :sadparrot: ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/321 "2019-02-07T15:00:46Z")
I 'member. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/322 "2019-02-07T16:14:30Z")
There seems to be a few ruffled feathers in this thread. or should I call that pork scratchings? ---
**Author:** ![Xan\_Staraider](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xan_staraider/32/125540_2.png) [@Xan\_Staraider](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xan_Staraider)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/323 "2019-02-07T16:54:59Z")
Nope. You don’t actually do anything relevant to High Sec in game, so your wall of texts are like “blah blah blah”. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/324 "2019-02-07T17:00:00Z")
Well don’t reply then. But thanks for the laugh yesterday, when people show their ignorance of things I always find it entertaining. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811.md?page=15) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811.md?page=17)