# CODE. announces February contest (win up to 12 billion isk)

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [January 16, 2019, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811 "2019-01-16T13:04:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/345 "2019-02-12T16:27:22Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> How many accounts do I need to do that? Seriously you think that to move a freighter around you must have say nine accounts, well well…

Not counting the freighter pilot, one.

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> If they made so much ISK that they can do it for fun that shows the difference, the AG don’t have that level of ISK.

How do you know how much isk they make? Please, do tell.

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Now that depends n a number of factors.

Sure. If a meteor hits the United states and everyone in the us dies, you may need more pilots as some of the logi may disconnect due to being dead in real life.

And sure, if people bring the wrong ship, and instead of a cruiser logi, like an oneiros, they bring a Dramiel with armor rep drones, then you will need more pilots because the person is stupid and doesnt understand what a logi is.

But in general, yes, you only need a quarter, a fraction of the number in logi that you do as a ganker.

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Bumping makes it too easy, I like how you guys ganked JF’s if normal freighters had to be ganked the same way I would be happy.

We gank jfs the same way we do freighters.

Ergo, you are happy, and therefore concede all your arguments. Right?

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Ho hum, the bumping means that you end up getting an accurate assessment of what is there, then you just add more bods or put people in higher DPS to compensate. The bumping side of it makes it too predictable.

Ho hum, the logi means that you end up getting an accurate assessment of how many gankers are in system and therefore what is coming, and then you just add more bods or put people in higher-repping ships to compensate. The AG side of it makes it too predictable too.

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Some do, I had a NCDOT JF pilot give me 1bn for bumping his JF out of optimal so it survived. He then cynoed out.

So what you’re saying is that it’s the freighter pilots fault for not offering a reward?

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> It is a question of resources and ability to replace losses, you keep ignoring that as if it is unimportant, it matters.

Of course it does. And that’s the point.

How much does it cost to buy a logi ship? 20 to 250 million isk.

How frequently do you have to replace a logi ship, as an AGer? Nearly zero. You can rep at 50km away, orbiting the freighter.

How much does it cost to buy a ganker ship? 10 to 100 million.

How frequently do you have to replace a ganking ship? Every time. They die, every time.

We are not ignoring the resource required and the ability to replace losses, you are.

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> You don’t but most casual hisec players do.

Sure. The alternative is making friends or hiring friends.

This is an mmo. Multiplayer. As in multiple players. If you dont have alts, and dont, or can’t make friends, and dont, or can’t pay people to help you, and dont want to contact AG(there are people who would help, without reward in that channel), and can’t afford to lose your ship and cargo, that’s your fault.

Every single aspect, every single step is necessarily a failure on your part. Not CCP. Not the gankers. You. It’s not up to the gankers to ensure that you are safe. It’s not up to ccp to ensure that you are safe.

The onus is on the freighter pilot. The responsibility is on the freighter pilot.

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> And that is the reason why most AG do not gank the bumper.

And that’s also the reason why most AGers do not need to gank the bumper in order to thwart the gank, they just need to be the logi, or park their battleship in between the bumper and the freighter to thwart the bump.

So yeah, a plus for AG, a minus for gankers.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/346 "2019-02-12T16:51:32Z")

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BuT gAnKiNG isN’t fAiR

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/347 "2019-02-12T17:02:47Z")

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> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> Not counting the freighter pilot, one.

You are on the blue list so one then.

> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> How do you know how much isk they make? Please, do tell.

A lot, that is a dumb question to ask when I am pointing out that when they can afford to gank empty freighters they are not exactly poor. But keep at it.

> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> Sure. If a meteor hits the United states and everyone in the us dies, you may need more pilots as some of the logi may disconnect due to being dead in real life.

You are doubling down, do continue.

> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> And sure, if people bring the wrong ship, and instead of a cruiser logi, like an oneiros, they bring a Dramiel with armor rep drones, then you will need more pilots because the person is stupid and doesnt understand what a logi is.

I think you are imagining that one.

> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> But in general, yes, you only need a quarter, a fraction of the number in logi that you do as a ganker.

Prove it!

> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> We gank jfs the same way we do freighters.

Not on the Perimeter gate in Jita you don’t…

> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> Ergo, you are happy, and therefore concede all your arguments. Right?

Nope, if you are trying to be wilfully ignorant of the point then continue in that.

> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> Ho hum, the logi means that you end up getting an accurate assessment of how many gankers are in system and therefore what is coming, and then you just add more bods or put people in higher-repping ships to compensate. The AG side of it makes it too predictable too.

Hold on I will just log in all my logi alts which I do not have…

> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> So what you’re saying is that it’s the freighter pilots fault for not offering a reward?

You just said that not me…

> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> Of course it does. And that’s the point.
> 
> How much does it cost to buy a logi ship? 20 to 250 million isk.

I was referring to ganking the bumper in that sentence but you seem to think I was referring to logi, WTG tiger for proving yourself a troll…

> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> Sure. The alternative is making friends or hiring friends.

Or earning so much ISK with easy stuff and plexing multiple accounts.

> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> This is an mmo. Multiplayer.

So why do the main freighter gankers multi-box then?

> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> The onus is on the freighter pilot. The responsibility is on the freighter pilot.

And CCP to have good mechanics. As such I don’t use freighters in the main pipes. So easy enough for me to avoid this terrible game play.

So a win for me and a loss for you lot, and by the way I have not lost a single ship to you lot, zilch, zero.

> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> they just need to be the logi, or park their battleship in between the bumper and the freighter to thwart the bump.

Go do it then. Park a BS, what a load of twaddle.

I was bored so I thought I might as well reply, but you are truly boring like your game play.

PS I have been told that most people have not noticed any increase in ganking so this challenge is not exactly doing much in terms of dead pixels…

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/348 "2019-02-12T17:04:55Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Bumping makes it too easy, I like how you guys ganked JF’s if normal freighters had to be ganked the same way I would be happy.

Wow. Drac just never has any idea what he’s talking about, does he?

You can like, set your watch by it…

Amazing…

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/349 "2019-02-12T17:06:00Z")

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B U M P I N G . . .

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/350 "2019-02-12T17:07:09Z")

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Yeah, no one has any idea what you’re talking about, just so ya know, buddy. 🧐

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/351 "2019-02-12T17:08:08Z")

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It is quite easy to work out.

Anyway I have some more interesting things to do like watch paint dry, o7

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/352 "2019-02-12T17:09:59Z")

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Oh, I’m sure you’ve got it all worked out.

Just like the wreck HP conspiracy, huh pal? 🥑

Edit: LOL I love chasing Drac out of threads just like the New Order chased him out of Highsec with his tail between his legs. 😚

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**Author:** ![Xan\_Staraider](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xan_staraider/32/125540_2.png) [@Xan\_Staraider](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xan_Staraider)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/353 "2019-02-12T17:18:21Z")

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**_Another Major Victory For CODE.!_**

@Dom_Arkaral has donated 10 [Gecko](https://www.thonky.com/eve-online-guide/eve-item-database?typeID=33681) drones and a set of [GDN-9 “Nightstalker” Combat Goggles](https://www.thonky.com/eve-online-guide/eve-item-database?typeID=3958)

To go to the 1st Place Grand Prize winner!

Praise James!

For the full updated set of prizes and rules check out the event posting:

> [@The Great Crusade - High Sec Ganking Contest](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/the-great-crusade-high-sec-ganking-contest/133859):
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> The CODE. alliance will be hosting a February contest for anyone who registers with a CODE. affiliate organization. For this year’s theme, we will be hunting miners and their ilk. Join us in helping save Eve from the bot and bot-aspirant threat that plagues High Sec. How to get signed up: Create a ganker alt if you don’t already have one. Read and decide to support [THE NEW HALAIMA CODE OF CONDUCT](http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html) Update your bio to reflect that support. Go shoot a miner in High Sec and get Concorded. Email …

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/354 "2019-02-12T17:46:22Z")

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> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#):
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> Just like the wreck HP conspiracy, huh pal? 🥑

[https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=468977&find=unread](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=468977&find=unread)

It is detailed above but I guess it is too difficult for you to use the scroll bar. I also expect you not to click through either. However as you mention it I can detail it and show that when the going gets tough the gankers get the game changed in their favour.

And it is this above all else that made me say no point in doing anything.

And I am in hisec now, sitting in Khafis, I don’t see any of you lot coming along to chase me out of hisec. Crickets chirping anyone…

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/355 "2019-02-12T17:54:21Z")

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_That’s_ the tinfoil I was looking for! 🤣

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/356 "2019-02-12T17:56:35Z")

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> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#):
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> _That’s_ the tinfoil I was looking for! 🤣

So you are calling CCP Fozzie’s direct statement at the start of this thread tinfoil. Fascinating… anyway as I said this:

[https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=468977&find=unread](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=468977&find=unread)

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/357 "2019-02-12T17:58:34Z")

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It’s like a chemtrail crazy person pointing up at a cloud… Kinda sad at this point.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/358 "2019-02-12T18:07:18Z")

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Good luck to the Victor,  
And of course, Praise James

@Dracvlad please stop with your off-topic banter.  
This is a thread for an honorable contest, not QQ’ING

Kthxbai ❤

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/359 "2019-02-12T18:31:41Z")

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Agreed, Dom. You’re a gentleman and a scholar. A warrior-monk married to the Code.

Praise James 315, and honor to the contestants!

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/360 "2019-02-12T18:45:12Z")

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> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#):
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> It’s like a chemtrail crazy person pointing up at a cloud… Kinda sad at this point.

[https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=468977&find=unread](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=468977&find=unread)

Perhaps you might read it if I link it enough times?

And I am merely replying to this off topic post:

> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#):
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> Just like the wreck HP conspiracy, huh pal? 🥑

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/361 "2019-02-12T18:53:24Z")

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Dracvlad could you stop acting like a pigeon and [expletive] up this wonderful forum post. I’m sure you can go make your own thread and hang out with Dryson. Maybe, between the two of you, you guys can pipebomb the gankers out of existence?

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/362 "2019-02-12T19:00:28Z")

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Ask your people not to reply to me anymore in this thread and it will be golden.

Why would I hang out with Dyson, he can’t even get on with Provi.

And what the hell are you going on about in terms of pipe bombing, is it another CODE attention seeking attempt?

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**Author:** ![Xan\_Staraider](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xan_staraider/32/125540_2.png) [@Xan\_Staraider](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xan_Staraider)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/363 "2019-02-12T19:11:24Z")

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Dracvlad is extra salty today. Probably cause he failed to stop any ganks again. XD

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2019, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-announces-february-contest-win-up-to-12-billion-isk/133811/364 "2019-02-12T19:17:08Z")

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What am I salty about? I had some crisps earlier, they were salty.

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