# CODE. Bowheads are useless in Hisec

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [November 6, 2017, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897 "2017-11-06T11:58:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Coralas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/coralas/32/11762_2.png) [@Coralas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Coralas)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/544 "2018-01-16T13:45:20Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> That’s the opposite of what said the guy before you. The career agents are not repeatable.
> 
> Keep your insults for yourself. I’m not your friend, I don’t appreciate your tone.
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> > [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> > I’d love you to prove me wrong.
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> You affirmed something without proof. So the affirmation is wrong. Maybe what you affirmed is true, but the fact that you affirmed it without proof is what is wrong.  
> You can have your opinions but not talk about them as something absolutely true.

The cashflow missions exist in more than 1 place, and level 1 missions can be done with a velator, and I didn’t do _all_ of the career agent missions in one place (ie there was more money in the starter system if I wanted it), and what newbie loses all 5 or so starting ships AND all their starting cash, and doesn’t get told on rookie/npc corp/local chat where to find the duplicate career agents/get given some cash/some help with missions. Not only that, GMs routinely appear in starter systems.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/545 "2018-01-16T13:50:47Z")

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Bonus, there are 12 systems with starter career missions (mining, industry, combat, advanced combat and whatever the last one is)

That’s 50 missions, 10 per agent, (plus loot and ships) ×12 that newbeans can do.

There’s easily 100m to be done right there, which can be turned into much more if the player is adventurous

Edit: I’m probs going to make a post in the New player area for this,

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/546 "2018-01-16T13:56:28Z")

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The fact that a beginner can move several system and do the same quests for another agent does not make those quest repeatable. You are under rating the cost to move for a beginner.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/547 "2018-01-16T14:05:25Z")

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I can imagine, noob auto pilots in his frigate that is able to do these missions and gets popped by Aaaaargh or one of the Smurfs… I wonder can you enjoy being ganked while AP’ing?

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/548 "2018-01-16T14:06:08Z")

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> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> Guise  
> Salvos is losing it 😃

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/5/9/05913bea3b05cdf2145db52608038f8ae0d0becf.jpeg "Why so serious") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMHqTc9zU5U)

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/549 "2018-01-16T14:09:40Z")

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You handsome devil you!!!

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**Author:** ![Coralas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/coralas/32/11762_2.png) [@Coralas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Coralas)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/550 "2018-01-16T14:09:44Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> The fact that a beginner can move several system and do the same quests for another agent does not make those quest repeatable. You are under rating the cost to move for a beginner.

They are in a frigate, it doesn’t take long, and more importantly they don’t know how long it will take.

You know the best part of the tutorials. They changed the second suicide mission from some sort of wierd anomoly thing to ‘kill a frigate, have a bunch of cruisers come in and blap you’. Surely that is the introduction eve needed!

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/551 "2018-01-16T14:11:28Z")

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If they know ships are waiting for them I don’t see why they’d bring more.than a ship, they can sell.the rest and get them again.

But most don’t know. I plan on changing that and make their early lives as easy as humanly possible

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/552 "2018-01-16T14:12:29Z")

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Ty for confirming you’re only trolling on here

Not that we didn’t know 😂

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/553 "2018-01-16T14:17:23Z")

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> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> Ty for confirming you’re only trolling on here
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> Not that we didn’t know 😂

Not taking things here seriously, or personally, doesnt mean its trolling.

It just means having normal perspective on GAME issues and normal human decency towards other players.

When you stop doing that, as you have, thats when you are trolling and disrespecting other players as people.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/554 "2018-01-16T14:25:33Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> normal perspective

What is normal?  
That all depends on how the viewer sees things.  
Everything is relative, thus your argument about normality is unviable

Methinks it’s about time this thread was closed

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/555 "2018-01-16T14:37:45Z")

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> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> Everything is relative, thus your argument about normality is unviable

And yet you presumed to claim I had “lost it” etc, as a deviation from norm.  
I showed you that I haven’t.

Lets see you do the same, to show you aren’t the one that has “lost” the plot.  
Ante up. Show us you arent mad.  
Provide us with a vid of you saying it with a straight face.

> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> Methinks it’s about time this thread was closed

That’s funny, considering you are complicit in deliberately derailing it off-topic with personal attacks and irrelevancies.

“Plz.. Close thread I am losing and that I myself wrecked, before I have to answer for that!”

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/556 "2018-01-16T14:47:29Z")

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I don’t have to prove anything lol  
I’m also most definitely making a video over something that doesn’t really matter (it’s a game lel)

The moment you posted that _why so serious_ was the moment you knew you lost, so you thought that it wouldn’t matter if you went overboard with an even more off-topic comment lol

I’m out, have fun talking to my alts 😉

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/557 "2018-01-16T14:50:11Z")

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> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> I don’t have to prove anything lol

Yet you presumed that I did.  
I did prove it.  
You got nothing.

> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#):
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> I’m out, have fun talking to my alts 😉

Thats fine.  
Run away with your tail between your legs.  
I never expected more of a coward/liar/troll like you.

Big mouth, but nothing to back it up when called on your bluff.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/558 "2018-01-16T14:58:17Z")

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Duel ingame?  
Do put your money where your mouth is little npc corp duder 😉

Uedama, Friday @2359 Eve Time at the sun. In t1 battlecruisers.

If you die, you lose.  
If you warp off, you lose.  
I’ll be waiting.

@Specia1_K want to come be referee on this one? 😛

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/559 "2018-01-16T15:04:07Z")

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OMG lol

“Duel my main!!!”

_popcorn_

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/560 "2018-01-16T15:06:27Z")

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You accused me, personally.  
I delivered on that.

Ante up with a personal vid like mine, and I will consider a duel in-game.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/561 "2018-01-16T15:07:37Z")

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I’ll take that as a _no_ then

As expected  
Like all those before 😂

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/562 "2018-01-16T15:08:48Z")

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Its a “no” on your part.

I stepped up to your personal accusations.  
You havent covered your tab on that.

Deliver, or run away.  
Up to you.

If you do man up and deliver that, I will meet you in-game for a duel.

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**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/563 "2018-01-16T15:22:17Z")

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Either you show up or you don’t  
You don’t get to choose the terms as I set them 🙂

See you Friday 😉  
o7

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