# CODE. Bowheads are useless in Hisec **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 6, 2017, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897 "2017-11-06T11:58:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/564 "2018-01-16T15:28:00Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > You don’t get to choose the terms as I set them 🙂 You owe me a vid such as mine to reconcile your personal accusations. Man up/pay up on that, or run away. If you do deliver on that, we can agree to terms of a duel in-game. You are in no position to presume to dictate the terms of the duel. That has never been the basis for duels. Standard protocol is the challenged gets to choose the weapons, place and time. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Razpataz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_razpataz/32/266831_2.png) [@Lord\_Razpataz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Razpataz)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/565 "2018-01-16T15:39:51Z")
Are you seriously trying this again… how long did the last duel thingy go on for… like 3 month of smacktalk before everyone forget? And come on guys… this is getting old, either agree to disagree or shut the ■■■■ up for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/566 "2018-01-16T15:43:44Z")
If you see a notification that a forum post has \>100 new updates within a day, you can be 100% sure it got salvoshd ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/567 "2018-01-16T15:45:52Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > normal human decency From you?! Laugh? I nearly shat lol ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/568 "2018-01-16T15:47:12Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > > > normal human decency > > From you?! Laugh? I nearly shat lol Amazing. You actually believe you are somehow a more decent normal human than I am. I think you have lost the plot entirely. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/569 "2018-01-16T15:54:05Z")
It proved my point last time as well. People talk all the ■■■■ in the world but can’t back their own words They gotta learn to put their money where their mouth is, it’s that simple. I never expected him to agree in the first place, he’s only good at deflecting into random directions lol ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/570 "2018-01-16T15:55:27Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > decent > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > normal These things are usually mutually exclusive in humans. And there you go again. Its not a competition. No you are not decent but neither am I. I doubt anyone around here is. But the way you act is a far cry from being a decent person. You literally cant have a conversation with me without getting snidey, aggresive, evasive or just plain dickish. Oh did I mention arrogant? I forgot about that, sorry, mr Defense Minister, Economic Master and Ninja Spec Ops expert of Finland. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/571 "2018-01-16T15:55:42Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > People talk all the ■■■■ in the world but can’t back their own words You haven’t backed up your words. Man up with a vid, or run off. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/572 "2018-01-16T15:56:33Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > No you are not decent but neither am I. I doubt anyone around here is. > > But the way you act is a far cry from being a decent person. This makes no sense, at all. No wonder you are confused. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/573 "2018-01-16T15:57:28Z")
You already declined Whatever lol You declined before I even asked 🙂 Ima let it sit there 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/574 "2018-01-16T15:57:58Z")
What words are giving you trouble? You actually think the way you are acting now is how a decent adult behaves? Do you? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/575 "2018-01-16T15:59:49Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > You already declined No, you declined to man up. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > What words are giving you trouble? The threefold contradiction in your post about you, me, and nobody else here being decent, yet somehow me being less decent than you or others. Made no goddam sense, whatsoever. I understand you hate me on a personal level, but nobody gives a ■■■■, and its just leading to irrational statements out of you. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/576 "2018-01-16T16:02:33Z")
Hmm either you do or you are propogating this to troll. You claimed your sense of “humour” displayed your decency. The idea that a troublemaker and troll like you is decent is the most ridiculous thing Ive read this hour. Grats, another thread youve destroyed. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/577 "2018-01-16T16:06:54Z")
@Nick_Mercury was your original complaint answered/addressed? If it’s the case do get ISD/CCP to shut the thread down. Or alternatively @CCP_Falcon lock please? Ty (I’ll go focus on my newbro thread) ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/578 "2018-01-16T16:32:11Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > @Nick_Mercury was your original complaint answered/addressed? If it’s the case do get ISD/CCP to shut the thread down. > > Or alternatively @CCP_Falcon lock please? > > Ty (I’ll go focus on my newbro thread) Wow, you embarrass yourself again on this thread and then you call for it to be locked. This discussion was about Bowheads, and there are still different views to be heard. Me and you do not think that they are useless in hisec, this is a rare moment of agreement between players who often have opposing views. They are still very vulnerable to being bumped, but they are easier to get out of a bump, because I have actually helped a couple escape. Now if freighters had the same ability I would be happy and stop my criticism of the bumping mechanic because at that point I would think that there is a counter. I hope CCP looks at the Bowhead and changes all the freighters to be able to run the MWD the same way. Over to you CCP, hopefully Falcon will see that and push it along, fat chance of that… PS Interesting that you can call for threads to be locked after you have taken them off topic and they then get locked… I will be pointing this out every time you take a thread off topic and I will then report you if you continue, because if you can call in a dev like this and get the thread locked then you need to be more controlled on your posts. ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/579 "2018-01-16T16:42:16Z")
Look at the last 400 posts 1% is about the op Rest is not even related to bowhead Why? Because all that had to be said was said by people who cared about the op. No need to try and prolong this thread lol And tbh, idgaf if you think I’ve embarrassed myself, because it’s only an opinion 😉 And opinions =/= facts Cheerio ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/580 "2018-01-16T16:43:40Z")
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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/581 "2018-01-16T17:02:43Z")
> [@Dom\_Arkaral](#): > > No need to try and prolong this thread lol There is, the reason is why Bowheads are not useless, first of all they are more difficult to catch for a bumper due to the MWD, second aspect is that they have a meatier tank and third is that with the MWD and a bit of thinking people can get them warp outs. This is important in that it is a ship that has a counter to bumping if people make an effort. Ima made a big silly fuss about the MWD to troll, but it did make me think about the bowhead and how freighters could be improved to give a better counter and the MWD is part of that. ---
**Author:** ![Alpha\_Slow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alpha_slow/32/44019_2.png) [@Alpha\_Slow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alpha_Slow)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/582 "2018-01-16T17:08:28Z")
The obnoxious forum trash really need to get a life. Seen the same losers in every thread for years. Must really suck to be you guys. ---
**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-bowheads-are-useless-in-hisec/36897/583 "2018-01-16T17:08:54Z")
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