# CODE: From the Perspective of a Non-Miner

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** pve, high-sec, pvp\
**Created:** [July 30, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638 "2020-07-30T18:19:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/342 "2020-09-22T06:43:12Z")

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Im glad I didnt stay up for this reply.

You dont have a problem killing low value ships, _he_ doesnt have a problem killing low value ships, so what is your point of argument?

Im not even sure he even mentioned the word “ganking” in regards to your activities. Please feel free to show me where he did.

So what is it you are arguing with him about and whats he accusing you of doing wrong that hes also doing?

Or has the meaning of hypocrisy changed too?

Also, aside, do you think Grinner II’s ECM is worth the massive leap in BV?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/344 "2020-09-22T07:16:37Z")

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You’ve responded to at least a dozen of my posts since you first said you blocked me, lmao.

Edit: just for the record, I never report anyone’s posts with the exception of something being truly offensive, or straight-up spam. So no, I didn’t hide the above post.

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**Author:** ![Vixie\_Trix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vixie_trix/32/204999_2.png) [@Vixie\_Trix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vixie_Trix)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/345 "2020-09-22T12:37:30Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> Vixie - I think your fundamental mistake is believing that highsec is supposed to be safe. Nowhere is such a thing written. Such was never CCP’s intention.
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> Highsec is merely the part of the game with the most police and gate/station guns. You are attributing some sort of moral status to it that doesn’t exist.

Sigh, I have a good idea what HS is, lived there for some time, not living there also for some time now.  
Sick and tired of this forums pissing all over non PvP players, and glorifying ahole organizations like CODE. Average PvP player here considers him or her self an authority on how Eve is meant to be played and proceeds to insult anyone who disagrees.  
I have nothing against PvP, I don’t seek it out, but I will fight to defend the region I live in. Accusing carebears of being crybabies, ok fine, but that makes CODE nothing more than a bunch of griefing aholes. Probably a requirement to join the CODE in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Vixie\_Trix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vixie_trix/32/204999_2.png) [@Vixie\_Trix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vixie_Trix)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/346 "2020-09-22T12:49:22Z")

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And all those “you just don’t understand it” speech, please spare me, there is nothing complicated about it.  
Misguided arguments that CODE is actually helping the game in some manner. laughable. In truth it’s just an alliance of “play it safe” griefers. It has to do it’s buissnes in high sec so when the ganker explodes it is justified by “well ofc I died, Concord is here”. High sec suicide ganking is the most cowardly activity one can engage in in Eve, so stop glorifying it. Aholes are a pat of life (big part), why should Eve be any different right 👎

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/347 "2020-09-22T12:53:01Z")

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You don’t know what you are talking about. And you are wrong.

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**Author:** ![Vixie\_Trix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vixie_trix/32/204999_2.png) [@Vixie\_Trix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vixie_Trix)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/348 "2020-09-22T12:57:59Z")

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I do and I’m not. (your type of response) Imagine an insult to your liking at the end of the sentence. 🤪

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/349 "2020-09-22T12:59:32Z")

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Read through your entire post full of judgements and dismissive hand waving. What sort of response do you expect. You know very little, but you have a great many big opinions.

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**Author:** ![Vixie\_Trix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vixie_trix/32/204999_2.png) [@Vixie\_Trix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vixie_Trix)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/350 "2020-09-22T13:01:31Z")

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You don’t know what you’re talking about. Oh, and you’re wrong.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/351 "2020-09-22T13:05:09Z")

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Cute.

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**Author:** ![Vixie\_Trix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vixie_trix/32/204999_2.png) [@Vixie\_Trix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vixie_Trix)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/352 "2020-09-22T13:07:59Z")

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No point in attempting constructive discussion with you, you seem to be incapable of it, so I stopped trying.  
Just gonna do what you do.

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**Author:** ![Phelan\_Kheldian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phelan_kheldian/32/450826_2.png) [@Phelan\_Kheldian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phelan_Kheldian)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/353 "2020-09-22T13:28:18Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Also, aside, do you think Grinner II’s ECM is worth the massive leap in BV?

Oh, the Battletech jokes… at least you have good taste in games.

Actually, Phelan Kell was first introduced in a book in December of 1990. I was actually using this name since 1989 when I started playing AD&D 1st edition.

And while I’m a big fan of Battletech (it actually the gateway that got me into tabletop roleplaying), the similar names are strictly coincidence.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/354 "2020-09-22T13:42:14Z")

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Wow nice on the date work.

I do admire a man who knows his C-Bill from his Fusionairre.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/355 "2020-09-22T13:47:50Z")

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Nerds 😋

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/356 "2020-09-22T13:53:21Z")

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I just wish MWO was more like EvE and less like pooh.

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**Author:** ![Phelan\_Kheldian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phelan_kheldian/32/450826_2.png) [@Phelan\_Kheldian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phelan_Kheldian)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/357 "2020-09-22T13:54:50Z")

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The only reason I have the date memorized is because this conversation happens so often. What I do know is I started playing Battletech and then got into tabletop roleplaying in 6th grade and then started reading the Blood of Kerensky books in 7th grade. I changed schools between those grades so very easy to remember

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/358 "2020-09-22T13:55:59Z")

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Still waiting on a BoK movie series.

Or better yet, TV series.

Yeah yeah I can dream

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Bahamut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_bahamut/32/411846_2.png) [@ISD\_Bahamut](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Bahamut)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/368 "2020-10-13T07:28:37Z")

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Removed several posts for being inappropriate and off-topic

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**Author:** ![Optimus\_Maximus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/optimus_maximus/32/368882_2.png) [@Optimus\_Maximus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Optimus_Maximus)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/369 "2020-10-13T09:51:46Z")

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Wow nice, I loved reading some of these. I thought it was gone for good.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/370 "2020-10-13T10:00:17Z")

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How come Frostpacker is on the **Recent Supporters** list?  
If there are no secrets held then there is no point in passing isk under the table Frostpacker denies either sending, giving or trading such donations for support.

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**Author:** ![Optimus\_Maximus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/optimus_maximus/32/368882_2.png) [@Optimus\_Maximus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Optimus_Maximus)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/371 "2020-10-13T10:03:30Z")

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Dude, CODE. is a group of players using totally legitimate game mechanics (im not being sarcastic) to kill people in high sec. They are lite-roleplayers in that they gank you and then they roleplay about it.  
You wouldn’t get upset if you get killed in low sec or null, right? Why consider high sec is safe? It’s never been intended that way or CCP would have regarded it as an exploit and banned CODE. and anyone else from ganking people in high sec a long time ago.

Why does it upset you so much?

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