# CODE: From the Perspective of a Non-Miner **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** pve, pvp, high-sec\ **Created:** [July 30, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638 "2020-07-30T18:19:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/412 "2020-12-14T12:27:38Z")
> [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > But I get the feeling you are not doing well in school. Whos trying to bully now, Riddles? ---
**Author:** ![Ridley\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ridley_rohan/32/403694_2.png) [@Ridley\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ridley_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/413 "2020-12-14T15:23:34Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Whos trying to bully now, Riddles? Well I didn’t use the S word again. But I got to admit, I am not very nice when someone just dumps a steaming pile of alternate facts down and starts asking everyone to behold the beautiful golden bricks they think they just laid. A friend of mine pointed out I have no tolerance for the Dunning-Kruegers among us, and he was right. But the code of silence is free to anyone who has no idea what they are talking about. School is definitely a place where one has had every chance to learn when they are out of their element. And when they can’t figure it out, I issue reminders. So while I may be a bit of a bully, I have much more than my own selfish amusement in mind when I am. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/414 "2020-12-14T15:33:24Z")
Fair dos, good answer! ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/415 "2020-12-14T16:06:14Z")
Thank heavens this wise sage appeared to guide us out of the darkness when he did, for surely we would have been lost without his gift of knowledge, doomed to tread these ancient EVE meme circular arguments for the rest of eternity. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/416 "2020-12-14T17:38:51Z")
> [@Ridley\_Rohan wrote](#): > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/0/5037c6c5b21204be7dd813889bcea3e1bcf95ab8.jpeg) > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/0/5037c6c5b21204be7dd813889bcea3e1bcf95ab8.jpeg) > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/0/5037c6c5b21204be7dd813889bcea3e1bcf95ab8.jpeg) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/5/a52abd0d3bd989406790c8e5dfcfca5188ff285c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/417 "2020-12-15T01:02:09Z")
> [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > buying a permit is just selling your soul for cheap. This is roleplay, right? ---
**Author:** ![Ridley\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ridley_rohan/32/403694_2.png) [@Ridley\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ridley_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/418 "2020-12-15T01:16:17Z")
Was that imagination or LSD? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/419 "2020-12-15T01:20:47Z")
Calm down Gnosis miner. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/420 "2020-12-15T02:39:30Z")
Such a salty bully you are, Ridley! ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 2:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/421 "2020-12-15T02:45:06Z")
He’s mad cuz someone killed his mining Gnosis: > **[Gnosis | Ridley Rohan | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/65960536/)** > > Ridley Rohan (The Two Percent Tax Corp) lost their Gnosis in Tabbetzur (Metropolis). Final Blow by Paxton Brimstone (OPSEC - Shadow Fighters) flying in a Blackbird. Total Value: 84,631,705.72 ISK ---
**Author:** ![Orrion\_the\_Fox](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orrion_the_fox/32/246407_2.png) [@Orrion\_the\_Fox](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orrion_the_Fox)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/422 "2020-12-15T15:10:14Z")
My experience with CODE is a bit different. I’ve seen both some of their worst and some of their best. [This](https://zkillboard.com/kill/88882935/) is my first interaction with CODE, and I was fighting rats at the time and in addition to that had begun to recall my drones and warp out upon seeing them lock me. I was definitely _not_ AFK. He said nothing in chat and destroyed my Venture. This was before I knew what CODE was, and my first thought was “man what a loser.” His ship was legions more expensive than mine, too. The more I heard about CODE, with that dude as my only reference point, the more I thought of them as pathetic. I later bought a permit. The [dude](https://zkillboard.com/character/1795741008/) who destroyed my Venture during my first thirty minutes of play was kicked from CODE the day after, and it was CODE members who pointed this out to me. When I explained what the guy had done, they said in response (and I quote) “that might be why he’s not in CODE anymore.” I went and bought a permit after because it was proven to me that the people who do the CODE thing, even if I do not agree with CODE in general, hold to their own standards and/or punish the people who don’t. CODE seems to leave Ventures alone. I can fly my Venture through/around Jita, mine at the belts and remain completely unscathed by anything but the rats… and this was _before_ getting the permit. Their main targets seem to be ships like the Mackinaw: expensive, flashy, and pointless unless you’re rich (in which case you can handle that loss anyway.) I still think CODE draws in PvP limp-dicks that can barely PvE, but I also think that CODE believes in what they do and that’s why they weed those people out. The people ‘memeing’ by creating corps with ‘holier-than-thou’ names to destroy frigates and pod the newbie inside are the ones doing exactly what they’re supposedly making fun of, and this then gets mistaken for the real thing. [It’s quite like Poe’s Law.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law) Oh, and to put an end to this, let me pull out the dictionary to help define what ‘griefing’ is: [harassment with intent to irritate another player.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griefer) By this definition, it’s safe to say that a lot of what the neo-CODE players (i.e. the ones that get booted from CODE) do would qualify as griefing, but whether or not it’s a punishable offense individually is up to CCP. I do not think CODE themselves qualify as griefers, however. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/423 "2020-12-15T18:59:25Z")
i was 🤣 about the mining gnosis then i checked zkill nice loki run bro you even killed a horde cruiser solo GZ i bet it was fun ---
**Author:** ![Neo\_Bladedrifter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neo_bladedrifter/32/244232_2.png) [@Neo\_Bladedrifter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neo_Bladedrifter)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/424 "2020-12-15T23:06:06Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > i checked zkill He’s not just talk man. He can also shoot. 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/425 "2021-01-24T15:59:11Z")
Come on, you probably lost a barge tech I, nothing to serious ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/426 "2021-01-24T16:11:30Z")
I’ve never lost anything to code toads, and never will. Some of us don’t need to step in manure before we recognize it’s shyte. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/427 "2021-01-24T18:42:02Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > I’ve never lost anything to code toads, and never will. I think you lost your dignity. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/428 "2021-01-24T19:01:41Z")
At least she still has her virginity! ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/429 "2021-01-24T21:43:12Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/4/840fab64e1fa09d7bb911c9991cf5b6b8bf2f26a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/430 "2021-01-24T22:37:40Z")
I was being polite and diplomatic. This is what I’m known for. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/431 "2021-01-24T22:49:49Z")
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