# CODE: From the Perspective of a Non-Miner

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** pve, pvp, high-sec\
**Created:** [July 30, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638 "2020-07-30T18:19:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/432 "2021-01-26T15:03:14Z")

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> [@Orrion\_the\_Fox](#):
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> CODE seems to leave Ventures alone

I do kill Ventures when nothing else is around.

You know how the saying goes:

If you are in company of a halfling and a dwarf, running from a dragon, you don’t have to be faster than the dragon. You just don’t have to look as juicy as the idiot in the blinged out Hulk…

… or something along those lines

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/433 "2021-01-26T15:15:31Z")

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Killing a Venture is an act of mercy anyway. It shows the (hopefully) new player that there isn’t much to be had from going in this direction in the game. If no one touches them, they’ll just keep plinking away at the asteroids, slowly upgrading their ship, until they’re finally in a Hulk with faction gear, and then when they inevitably lose **that** , it becomes something they can’t recover from.

Killing a Venture _might_ cause a player to quit the game. Killing a bling boat that they’ve spent a year grinding for _guarantees_ it.

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/434 "2021-01-26T16:11:41Z")

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Indeed it is long known that killing new players will improve their retention.

However, I don’t care much about retention, I’m not working for CCP, that is their job. That is why I usually just kill older players who may drop something nice…

Actually I do kill a Venture if see the pilot is older and make sure I get the egg… the things they sometimes have in their heads! Just some “relaxed mining” with the “training clone” in safety… nice

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/435 "2021-01-26T17:23:58Z")

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Old players in ventures are the best.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/code-from-the-perspective-of-a-non-miner/257638/436 "2021-04-26T17:24:01Z")

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