# Combat sites= Negative isk? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 24, 2018, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-sites-negative-isk/91947 "2018-07-24T10:55:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-sites-negative-isk/91947/41 "2018-07-25T15:59:10Z")
T3D are way faster. They lock faster, they warp faster, they move faster. They alpha as much as your ishtar(actually you even can split the guns to be faster) ---
**Author:** ![Sethyrh\_Nakrar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sethyrh_nakrar/32/12695_2.png) [@Sethyrh\_Nakrar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sethyrh_Nakrar)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-sites-negative-isk/91947/42 "2018-07-25T17:15:04Z")
Yeah. A confessor just murders Sanshas. ---
**Author:** ![Khergit\_Deserters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khergit_deserters/32/319315_2.png) [@Khergit\_Deserters](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khergit_Deserters)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-sites-negative-isk/91947/43 "2018-07-26T19:46:01Z")
The other day I did some high sec L4 missions for the first time since 2012, and I was kind of stunned by how little the payout in bounties, drops, and salvage was. The rewards for the L4 seemed too small in proportion to current costs of things. It looks like CCP hasn’t adjusted the bounties and loot tables to account for inflation. (I remember buying a Maelstrom for around 105 mil in 2012; they’re 147mil in Jita now). ---
**Author:** ![Hellois\_Dawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellois_dawn/32/36228_2.png) [@Hellois\_Dawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hellois_Dawn)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-sites-negative-isk/91947/44 "2018-07-26T23:04:16Z")
thats really bad and you should be ashamed. Well for the moment at least. You will learn how to do it properly soon enough. ---
**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-sites-negative-isk/91947/45 "2018-07-27T00:23:45Z")
> [@Khergit\_Deserters](#): > > The other day I did some high sec L4 missions for the first time since 2012, and I was kind of stunned by how little the payout in bounties, drops, and salvage was. The rewards for the L4 seemed too small in proportion to current costs of things. It looks like CCP hasn’t adjusted the bounties and loot tables to account for inflation. (I remember buying a Maelstrom for around 105 mil in 2012; they’re 147mil in Jita now). Learn to blitz and/or cherry pick, should be able to stay over 100mil/hr with most lv4s. Then fully min/maxed burners do 200-300mil/hr in highsec. so I’d say lv4s are fine ---
**Author:** ![Markus\_Reinhart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/markus_reinhart/32/133706_2.png) [@Markus\_Reinhart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Markus_Reinhart)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-sites-negative-isk/91947/46 "2018-07-27T11:04:56Z")
That is not realistic, you can get that with a single profitable mission (discounting all other time needed) but you can’t chain that. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-sites-negative-isk/91947/47 "2018-07-27T11:19:18Z")
get what ? ---
**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-sites-negative-isk/91947/48 "2018-07-27T15:14:06Z")
> [@Markus\_Reinhart](#): > > That is not realistic, you can get that with a single profitable mission (discounting all other time needed) but you can’t chain that Oh that’s completely realistic, I can chain that literally\* forever. My mission accept list is pretty much burners and dread pirate. And I could probably optimize the accept list even more. For example I’ve not really compared the various storylines, I pretty much decline couriers as soon as they pop up, but of the combat storylines there are a few that are easy blitzes, and a few that take like 10-20 mins, but most of those have a bunch of bounties and/or implant drops, so they might still be worth it. \*and I’m not one of those assholes that uses literally like figuratively. ---
**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-sites-negative-isk/91947/49 "2018-07-27T15:32:12Z")
I hate when people do that it makes me want to literally kill them (in game of course). ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-sites-negative-isk/91947/50 "2018-07-27T19:51:26Z")
I know CCP knows how much ISK was pumped into economy in all those years, month by month, from all systems in EVE (especially null). I know they know why it is so. I know they dont care because else they would react. ---
**Author:** ![Sethyrh\_Nakrar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sethyrh_nakrar/32/12695_2.png) [@Sethyrh\_Nakrar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sethyrh_Nakrar)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 2:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-sites-negative-isk/91947/51 "2018-07-28T02:50:31Z")
Well. They care not that much about PVE. And when they do we get FOBs or Abyssal Deadspace… ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-sites-negative-isk/91947/52 "2018-07-28T17:35:07Z")
> [@Ash\_Beldrulf](#): > > One was a hidden angel hideaway and other was a forlorn angel hideaway. The Hidden, Forlorn and Forsaken Hideaway are the most terrible Combat Anomalies in EVE. CCP just forgot about 'em and why it needs to be reworked, based on their difficulties with all those elite vessels. I’d call 'em Hidden Middle Finger Giveaway… Try normal Combat Anomalies. Their High-Sec objective is to give you some Expeditions to High and Low-Sec, from which you can loot some goodies from commanders, officers etc. If you need some Hi-Sec ISK to grind, try to skill your pilot into Blitzing/Speedrun L4s or into performing Incursions. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-sites-negative-isk/91947/53 "2018-07-28T17:49:55Z")
> [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > I’d call 'em Hidden Middle Finger Giveaway… Please note that hiden and forsaken are not THAT bad in term of spawn. The forlorn on the other hand, be it in HS or NS, is full of elite ships that will point+web you and your drones, while having SAME bounty and same loot/salvage. If I could, I would specifically remove them from probe scanner. Same for ded4 drone. ---
**Author:** ![Sethyrh\_Nakrar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sethyrh_nakrar/32/12695_2.png) [@Sethyrh\_Nakrar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sethyrh_Nakrar)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-sites-negative-isk/91947/54 "2018-07-28T19:45:57Z")
> [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#): > > Their High-Sec objective is to give you some Expeditions to High and Low-Sec, from which you can loot some goodies from commanders, officers etc. There are no Officerspawns in anomalies. Or in highsec or lowsec that is. Only in special places in asteroidbelts in 0.0. ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2018, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-sites-negative-isk/91947/55 "2018-07-29T06:37:16Z")
> [@Sethyrh\_Nakrar](#): > > There are no Officerspawns in anomalies. Or in highsec or lowsec that is. > Only in special places in asteroidbelts in 0.0. Maybe are, maybe not. I didn’t performed all possible Combat Signatures and Expeditions in EVE and I don’t know all available names btw. Their names are long and different from site to site. To be more accurate, let’s call those NPC minions **'the last boss** ’ then. ---
**Author:** ![Sethyrh\_Nakrar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sethyrh_nakrar/32/12695_2.png) [@Sethyrh\_Nakrar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sethyrh_Nakrar)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2018, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-sites-negative-isk/91947/56 "2018-07-29T07:09:39Z")
Officers are basicly high-end NPCs that spawn in truesec(NPC-0.0-Regions) and broken truesec(Sov-/NPC-0.0-Regions like Delve) in asteroid belts. Usually they fly battleships on crack(Killing one in a Carrier is pretty fun. As long you keep about 50 klicks+ out of their EWAR-range…). There are people that hunt them. They can drop a ton of factionstuff, a special tag and more or less precious officermodules(A corpmate got approx 60b+ out of one…). The cashcows in DEDs are normal Factionspawns, but some drop Deadspacestuff. And they are pretty much no real threat. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2018, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-sites-negative-isk/91947/57 "2018-07-29T07:29:07Z")
the “cashcow” are commanders, are their wreck implies (it shows commander wreck in theoverview type) The officer drop the “officer” modules, ie the purpl items that are sometimes as good as ded and sometimes different, and worth in the B isk range. ---
**Author:** ![Gleb\_Koskov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gleb_koskov/32/374138_2.png) [@Gleb\_Koskov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gleb_Koskov)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-sites-negative-isk/91947/58 "2018-08-06T16:11:15Z")
Completely agree. ‘ **sips wine in ratting Super** ’ ---
**Author:** ![Kronomin\_Rilynret](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kronomin_rilynret/32/89715_2.png) [@Kronomin\_Rilynret](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kronomin_Rilynret)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-sites-negative-isk/91947/59 "2018-08-13T17:14:23Z")
Lol, me and my guys chant “1 billion isk” while opening the cargohold in those sites. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2018, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/combat-sites-negative-isk/91947/60 "2018-08-14T06:57:56Z")
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