# COMING NOVEMBER 14 HAVOC | DUST | A New First Person Shooter? 🎯 **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 31, 2023, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753 "2023-10-31T12:55:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753/21 "2023-11-11T01:27:15Z")
Kind of like a parrot holding a corn cob perhaps? ![IMG_3756](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/4/e/d4e6040b701e7002708568be115d11e64135d56b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753/22 "2023-11-11T08:40:27Z")
/Meow 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elinore_en_divalone/32/507815_2.png) [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elinore_en_Divalone)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753/23 "2023-11-11T10:47:58Z")
/Scratch ? ---
**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753/24 "2023-11-12T06:53:14Z")
Did CCP learn from past mistakes this time? ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753/25 "2023-11-12T07:23:07Z")
We’re not getting cat ears so no scratching allowed! /what mistakes are you referring towards there @Nabi_Kim Besides I’m super hyped with or without mistakes as hey _we_ Frostpackers have a saying. high expectations are futile! ---
**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753/26 "2023-11-12T07:41:52Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > /what mistakes are you referring towards there @Nabi_Kim Like making an shooter for EVE Online - a PC exclusive game - available only on a soon-to-be-obsolete console? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 7:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753/27 "2023-11-12T07:50:25Z")
The director of eve admitted that was a mistake. Currently looks like vanguards are a 4th character slot and omega clones can have them and a capsuleer on same account logged in. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753/28 "2023-11-12T07:58:06Z")
I once purchased a ps4 that came with the game Grand turismo years ago and had only played that the one time before packing it away and rebuilding my pc back in 2016 Consoles are DED to me ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753/29 "2023-11-12T08:32:43Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > high expectations are futile! Just FYI that is copyrighted to me as I came up with it and you have to pay a licensing fee of 1 bil ISK every time you include it in your post. 😈 ---
**Author:** ![NeVrain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevrain/32/394910_2.png) [@NeVrain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NeVrain)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2023, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753/30 "2023-11-18T14:33:04Z")
For now the Vanguards are a 4th character on all Omega accounts, but it’s just a temporary(?) testing and feedback thing…CCP wants feedback from EVE players first. Primary purpose of the test might be ‘Did we get the New Eden immersion right?’ followed by ‘How does it feel as a shooter?’ and maybe the always contentious ‘Where do we set the masochism slider?’ No way to tell what the final packaging of the FPS will be at this stage, prolly still working that out…but one could imagine they’d want frictionless inclusion of any New Eden vet who desires to experience the universe from planetside. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753/31 "2023-11-20T21:40:17Z")
> [@NeVrain](#): > > CCP wants feedback from EVE players first. Because we Eve players are known for our calm and considered critiques. m ---
**Author:** ![Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elinore_en_divalone/32/507815_2.png) [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elinore_en_Divalone)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753/32 "2023-11-20T22:09:17Z")
Tomorrow we will know more about First Strike event in December. _(Source: EVE Vanguard newsletter trolling dispatched today 😉 )_ …that _could start_ (disclaimer: highly speculative bet mind you) as soon as on 7th December when new eve launcher comes out of beta… ---
**Author:** ![NeVrain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevrain/32/394910_2.png) [@NeVrain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NeVrain)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753/33 "2023-11-21T12:37:02Z")
Here’s a little more info(new to me at least) reported by Biomassed > **[Vanguard First Strike Test Dates Imminent | Biomassed](https://biomassed.net/2023/11/21/vanguard-first-strike-test-dates-imminent/)** > > CCP Games sent an email earlier today with some exciting news regarding the new FPS module coming to EVE Online — Vanguard. The test dates \[...\] ---
**Author:** ![Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elinore_en_divalone/32/507815_2.png) [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elinore_en_Divalone)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753/34 "2023-11-21T13:17:41Z")
The First Strike anouncement email was postponed until tomorrow’s downtime when the today’s patch is reapplied successfully after resolving the whatever issue. …apparently it was interconnected with Vanguard 🕶 _Source: [EVE Discord Vanguard section](https://discord.com/channels/940573867192221696/1154004793010954420/1176502401180639372)_ ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753/35 "2023-11-21T13:22:40Z")
> [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](#): > > patch is reapplied successfully after resolving the whatever issue Waiting with great anticipation. 🍿 😏 ---
**Author:** ![Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elinore_en_divalone/32/507815_2.png) [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elinore_en_Divalone)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753/36 "2023-11-21T19:11:59Z")
It’s happening on 7th December… > **[Havoc updates, Vanguard news | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/havoc-updates-vanguard-news)** > > Vanguard First Strike coming 7 Dec, and Havoc intensifies! _(oh and another NDA’ed technical stress-test on 26th November 🙂 before First Strike)_ ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753/37 "2023-11-21T19:33:10Z")
🥳 🥳 🥳 :congaparrot: :congaparrot: :congaparrot: Here we go lads! This is gona be huge. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753/38 "2023-11-21T23:09:57Z")
> [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#): > > huge True, but whether it will be a huge disaster or a huge success only time will tell. 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753/39 "2023-11-21T23:20:24Z")
Right!? 😂 😂 I know I should not put this much hype into it. I am so scared if this will be a big let down. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753/40 "2023-11-21T23:25:08Z")
Wasn’t my intention to bring you down, just my realistic side kicking in. But really even if it will be a disaster why not be hyped, the disaster will happen anyway may you be hyped or not and the success the same. Just be able to let go of the hype once reality kicks in… in case it does not meet expectations and just have a good laugh at the situation… similar to losing a ship in EVE and such. Worst case we can see the pretty fireworks together and have a good time either way. 😉 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-november-14-havoc-dust-a-new-first-person-shooter/425753.md?page=3)