# Coming Soon: Metaliminal Storms in Nullsec **URL:** \ **Category:** Upcoming Features & Changes\ **Tags:** null-sec, august\ **Created:** [August 4, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511 "2020-08-04T14:39:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/61 "2020-08-04T15:40:44Z")
CSM ? more like GSM ( goon stellar management ) ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Muppet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/not_muppet/32/302935_2.png) [@Not\_Muppet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Not_Muppet)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/62 "2020-08-04T15:41:04Z")
What happens when these storms get near each other? Do they combine effects? ---
**Author:** ![Garth\_Takeshi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/garth_takeshi/32/505446_2.png) [@Garth\_Takeshi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Garth_Takeshi)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/63 "2020-08-04T15:41:04Z")
Please add ESI endpoints so we can see which systems have which effects via API. Garth ---
**Author:** ![Amarrian\_Victor](https://imageserver.eveonline.com/Character/1_512.jpg) [@Amarrian\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amarrian_Victor)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/64 "2020-08-04T15:41:42Z")
This is crazy… I don’t know who makes these decisions but they should probably have that power revoked. Largest war in many years kicking off? New Players and Bittervets subscribing? Average PCU going up for the first time in years? Gaming press and platforms covering war giving Eve publicity? Potential for the likes of BBC/CCN/Whatever to give CCP free publicity once massive battles start happening? I know, let’s introduce changes that aren’t going to do anything but annoy players and causes them to stop logging in again. Seriously guys, I know after so many years I shouldn’t be surprised at the terrible decisions that CCP makes anymore, but I can’t help but think WTAF are you smoking? Do you guys even understand your player base??? ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/65 "2020-08-04T15:42:26Z")
Adapt or die that is the motto of eve ---
**Author:** ![Daro\_Mozu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daro_mozu/32/184030_2.png) [@Daro\_Mozu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daro_Mozu)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/66 "2020-08-04T15:42:51Z")
Anti-goon coalition have equal numbers in CSM as goon coalition itself. This CSM is by far the most diverse CSM in history. And how do you react on that? > [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](#): > > CSM ? more like GSM ( goon stellar management ) Christ allmighty. ---
**Author:** ![Punky260](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/punky260/32/222050_2.png) [@Punky260](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Punky260)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/67 "2020-08-04T15:43:54Z")
Love the idea! - Nullsec player btw. The starting points of the storms is an important thing though, would be nice to get a certain clarification for that. Maybe let them start in NPC null and maybe “spoil them up” for 1-3 days before the affects are on? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Dreadening](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dreadening/32/226469_2.png) [@The\_Dreadening](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dreadening)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/69 "2020-08-04T15:44:37Z")
Cant wait to see all the players that ragequit like babies during blackout “adapt” to this change. The idiots just log off again and wait till the storm passes. Whoever has enough space just uses different systems. Unless its one of the few “good” effect for the krabs, like the ore anoms, theyll just ignore it. Pointless change that doesnt actually affect anything significantly. ---
**Author:** ![Urziel99](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/urziel99/32/303150_2.png) [@Urziel99](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Urziel99)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/70 "2020-08-04T15:44:56Z")
that can be mitigated by having varied armor and shield doctrines in stock. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/71 "2020-08-04T15:45:05Z")
MORE GIVE ME MORE TEARS ---
**Author:** ![Dunk\_Dinkle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dunk_dinkle/32/319804_2.png) [@Dunk\_Dinkle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dunk_Dinkle)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/72 "2020-08-04T15:47:26Z")
![delicious](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/d/5de16394430becd21b0c235dfa95c03a2f4f05b6.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Verzak\_Bastrom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/verzak_bastrom/32/245068_2.png) [@Verzak\_Bastrom](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Verzak_Bastrom)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/73 "2020-08-04T15:47:59Z")
It’s not written in the post so I’m asking, will the in-game map show where these storms are? ---
**Author:** ![nync](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nync/32/316497_2.png) [@nync](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/nync)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/74 "2020-08-04T15:48:01Z")
You keep adding this stuff nobody asked for. What about sov game mechanics everyone hates? What about citadel time zone tanking? So many issues and you create storms… ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/75 "2020-08-04T15:48:24Z")
looks fun, haters gonna hate, lmao ---
**Author:** ![Annisir\_Kaugan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annisir_kaugan/32/388372_2.png) [@Annisir\_Kaugan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annisir_Kaugan)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/76 "2020-08-04T15:49:56Z")
It makes nullsec more appealing. ---
**Author:** ![Shadalana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shadalana/32/207845_2.png) [@Shadalana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shadalana)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/77 "2020-08-04T15:50:00Z")
This is one of these changes which will have no impact for people living in 0.0. ether the storm is good for you and you use him or you do 5 days something else. cloaky will complain if the get hit by the anti cloaky storm, but this is not relevant. crabs die, cloakys are crabs, so they will die. sov warfare will not care. worst case: 5 days no fight in one system, but you can always move a planned op by 5 days… carebears will make money in the right storm or will make money in the other storm. you just need a second fit low sec how roams to 0.0…will just roam a other route or embrace the storm so, what do we get? not the same every day in 0.0. win for everyone. I like it ---
**Author:** ![Annie\_Reid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annie_reid/32/429460_2.png) [@Annie\_Reid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annie_Reid)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/78 "2020-08-04T15:50:14Z")
Its what I want for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/79 "2020-08-04T15:51:08Z")
And unlike blackout, mittani and other null sec power can’t treath to unsubb because the storm will go away ---
**Author:** ![Daro\_Mozu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daro_mozu/32/184030_2.png) [@Daro\_Mozu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daro_Mozu)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/80 "2020-08-04T15:52:10Z")
You can´t mitigate effect solely by using the same doctrine ships as you enemy. Your numbers and tactics are important too. For instanse: bomber fleets may play a huge roll but they can not be used during some storms. ---
**Author:** ![Isabella\_Echerie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isabella_echerie/32/343813_2.png) [@Isabella\_Echerie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Isabella_Echerie)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/81 "2020-08-04T15:52:15Z")
That is unironically pretty cool. Sounds like a fun feature, also now you can trap Cloaky Campers by Camping the gates when the storm comes. 2 Tengus go poof. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511.md?page=5)