# Coming Soon: Metaliminal Storms in Nullsec **URL:** \ **Category:** Upcoming Features & Changes\ **Tags:** null-sec, august\ **Created:** [August 4, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511 "2020-08-04T14:39:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Daro\_Mozu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daro_mozu/32/184030_2.png) [@Daro\_Mozu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daro_Mozu)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/123 "2020-08-04T16:39:46Z")
> [@Golemag](#): > > There is no fight in nullsec. It’s gang, camp or nothing. > [@Golemag](#): > > i never left Fountain for all these years. Erm… you are not pvping by camping and roaming with gangs? No fight in nullsec? No fight? _checking zkill_ _shouts_ We need a medic for this one! ---
**Author:** ![Daro\_Mozu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daro_mozu/32/184030_2.png) [@Daro\_Mozu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daro_Mozu)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/124 "2020-08-04T16:41:21Z")
Plenty of null dwellers are welcoming this feature, can they stay? ---
**Author:** ![Golemag](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/golemag/32/263182_2.png) [@Golemag](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Golemag)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/125 "2020-08-04T16:48:42Z")
> [@Daro\_Mozu](#): > > No fight in nullsec? No fight? _checking zkill_ > _shouts_ We need a medic for this one! You looking at an active warzone killboard. Nice to try to pass your point along without even being honest about it. ---
**Author:** ![Dominous\_Nolen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dominous_nolen/32/393106_2.png) [@Dominous\_Nolen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dominous_Nolen)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/126 "2020-08-04T16:49:13Z")
Sounds like there can be some overlap. ---
**Author:** ![Golemag](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/golemag/32/263182_2.png) [@Golemag](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Golemag)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/127 "2020-08-04T16:49:29Z")
> [@Xeantuxe\_Vaille](#): > > I’m sure there are plenty of people happy to take over the space Why, you can rat anywhere you want. ---
**Author:** ![Laurence\_Pinkitin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/laurence_pinkitin/32/215326_2.png) [@Laurence\_Pinkitin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Laurence_Pinkitin)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/128 "2020-08-04T16:50:59Z")
ah yes lets play shitty cancerous toaster games for sov then be rewarded withthis ■■■■. ---
**Author:** ![RiotRick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/riotrick/32/385311_2.png) [@RiotRick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/RiotRick)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/129 "2020-08-04T16:53:15Z")
Can we add an extra storm effect? All barges would have the capability to light a normal cyno. ---
**Author:** ![Daro\_Mozu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daro_mozu/32/184030_2.png) [@Daro\_Mozu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daro_Mozu)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/130 "2020-08-04T16:54:36Z")
And where should i look for? Great Wildlands where there like no life at all? ---
**Author:** ![Emporos\_Dimiourgia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/emporos_dimiourgia/32/465487_2.png) [@Emporos\_Dimiourgia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Emporos_Dimiourgia)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/131 "2020-08-04T16:54:39Z")
Go ■■■■ yourself. Sincerely, all of nullsec ---
**Author:** ![Saanguinee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saanguinee/32/189495_2.png) [@Saanguinee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saanguinee)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/132 "2020-08-04T16:58:45Z")
i love the update. but no cloaking is ■■■■■■■ stupid. why not rolling blackout instead ---
**Author:** ![Daro\_Mozu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daro_mozu/32/184030_2.png) [@Daro\_Mozu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daro_Mozu)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/133 "2020-08-04T17:00:17Z")
Eh, why is blackout an ok thing and no cloacking is bad? ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Adara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/silver_adara/32/508529_2.png) [@Silver\_Adara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Silver_Adara)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/134 "2020-08-04T17:02:44Z")
So much salt and tin-foil hats. I highly doubt CCP are trying to interfere with a silly war. Personally, I think it’s awesome. Everyone complained about blackout, we all survived. I think some people are just afraid of change. ---
**Author:** ![Madras\_Dawnkeeper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/madras_dawnkeeper/32/296966_2.png) [@Madras\_Dawnkeeper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Madras_Dawnkeeper)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/135 "2020-08-04T17:05:16Z")
@FC_Convict Does “more relic sites” mean we get more of the sites from that region or we get a different kind of site. Also: why not spawn new data sites? Right now its almost not worth to fit a Data Analyzer and this makes it worse. And two of these effect types make it more desirable to be in a large alliance with a early warning system. Electric: If you can’t cloak a local with an intel channel has a huge advantage. Same goes for Exotic and mining. This seems to be another addition to the farms, fields and fortresses meta. ---
**Author:** ![Daro\_Mozu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daro_mozu/32/184030_2.png) [@Daro\_Mozu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daro_Mozu)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/136 "2020-08-04T17:05:30Z")
Nullsec is static, nullsec stagnating… thi war is silly! Wow. People who will spend several months there want to be sure that this change will not be a surprise from CCP that will help one of the fighting sides. Like drifter incursion did. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/137 "2020-08-04T17:05:33Z")
> [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](#): > > And unlike blackout, mittani and other null sec power can’t treath to unsubb because the storm will go away You really need to think that one through again. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/138 "2020-08-04T17:06:05Z")
> [@Daro\_Mozu](#): > > Eh, why is blackout an ok thing and no cloacking is bad? Because that makes all Covert Cloak ships obsolete. ---
**Author:** ![Daro\_Mozu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daro_mozu/32/184030_2.png) [@Daro\_Mozu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daro_Mozu)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/139 "2020-08-04T17:07:25Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Because that makes all Covert Cloak ships obsolete. They made nullsec krabbing absolete for 66 days and we survived. Sure they can survive without cloaks in a few systems for a few days. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/140 "2020-08-04T17:08:23Z")
> [@Sunar\_Aluves](#): > > this is a nice for a start. u need to be balder in the future. Stay away from my hair, weirdo! ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/141 "2020-08-04T17:08:51Z")
Sorry, that’s not the same, Black Out just affected Local Chat, it didn’t make a specific line of ships obsolete. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Adara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/silver_adara/32/508529_2.png) [@Silver\_Adara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Silver_Adara)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/142 "2020-08-04T17:10:40Z")
I have no pony in this war so, it doesn’t really bother me. _shrug_ [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511.md?page=8)