# Coming Soon: Metaliminal Storms in Nullsec **URL:** \ **Category:** Upcoming Features & Changes\ **Tags:** null-sec, august\ **Created:** [August 4, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511 "2020-08-04T14:39:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Karles](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karles/32/472902_2.png) [@Karles](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karles)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/163 "2020-08-04T17:40:57Z")
After 14 full years playing and see all those changes, you’re making nullsec awfully unplayable. You’re destroying the game. Let’s see how many unsubs this will cause. ---
**Author:** ![Silmaril\_Valent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/silmaril_valent/32/315148_2.png) [@Silmaril\_Valent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Silmaril_Valent)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/164 "2020-08-04T17:41:15Z")
You may not be the weathergirl we need, but you could be the one we deserve. ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/165 "2020-08-04T17:42:36Z")
Eve players: Triglavians turn high sec to nullsec and disrupt high sec Care Bears this is amazing great job CCP Eve players: Triglavians cause minor occasional disruption to nullsec care bears OMG YOU BROKE EVERYTHING CCP HOW COULD YOU? ---
**Author:** ![Karles](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karles/32/472902_2.png) [@Karles](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karles)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/166 "2020-08-04T17:43:28Z")
Just checked for curiosity… Hisec char, no kills, carebear… Maybe you should give advice in other area, dude > **[Senyu Takashi | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/844931058/)** > > Senyu Takashi: 108 ships destroyed and 138 ships lost. ---
**Author:** ![Karles](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karles/32/472902_2.png) [@Karles](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karles)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/168 "2020-08-04T17:44:45Z")
Lol wasn’t tagging you mate! ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/169 "2020-08-04T17:45:35Z")
Spotted that and deleted 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Madras\_Dawnkeeper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/madras_dawnkeeper/32/296966_2.png) [@Madras\_Dawnkeeper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Madras_Dawnkeeper)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/170 "2020-08-04T17:48:06Z")
That’s what I’m saying. One effect removes cloaks and thus makes an intel networks stronger. And the other effect is also negate-able by intel. i.e.: it makes being in a big alliance even more desirable. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/171 "2020-08-04T17:53:24Z")
> [@Ikki\_Phoenix](#): > > If you are in Fountain, you should have seen how busy we all are out there There’s nothing happening in Fountain. ---
**Author:** ![Jake\_Javelin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jake_javelin/32/173224_2.png) [@Jake\_Javelin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jake_Javelin)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/172 "2020-08-04T17:54:46Z")
I’m a nullsec player shedding tears of joy! This is AWESOME! Nice shakeup with random positive and negative effects. Love it!!! 💖 ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/173 "2020-08-04T17:55:46Z")
> [@Saanguinee](#): > > i love the update. but no cloaking is ■■■■■■■ stupid. why not rolling blackout instead I suggested rolling blackout. ---
**Author:** ![Karles](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karles/32/472902_2.png) [@Karles](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karles)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/174 "2020-08-04T17:57:30Z")
That will be awesome for Bomber fleets, Blackops, t3 cloaky roams… But wait… They aren’t used in nullsec… 🤫 🤫 🤫 🤫 🤫 ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/175 "2020-08-04T18:02:07Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > Could somebody please do me a favor? Assume that I know absolutely nothing about nullsec. Pick one of these weather effects, and explain to me why somebody would actively seek them out? > > The minor benefits seem completely overshadowed by the harsh drawbacks. Obviously, there will be opportunistic PVPers that go there to kill clueless fools… but will these systems be nothing but sucker traps? I don’t see anybody seeking these effects out (except maybe the mining one). They’ll just be things that will impact fights in those systems while they’re there. They may influence doctrine selection, whether you bring logi or DPS, whether you fight at all, if you can bring in cynos, and tactics within fights. A gate camp in a system with the bonus to web/point range is going to be extra fun. It’s something disruptive that makes people have to adjust on the fly. ---
**Author:** ![Daro\_Mozu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daro_mozu/32/184030_2.png) [@Daro\_Mozu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daro_Mozu)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/176 "2020-08-04T18:07:25Z")
You do realize that those effects will work only for like 1 constellation at a time? ---
**Author:** ![Madras\_Dawnkeeper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/madras_dawnkeeper/32/296966_2.png) [@Madras\_Dawnkeeper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Madras_Dawnkeeper)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/177 "2020-08-04T18:12:02Z")
That doesn’t change my arguments value. There will be at least four reminders floating around nullsec that scream “why are you not in the intel channel” ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/178 "2020-08-04T18:13:24Z")
Gotta leave the game to check the Trig invasion status of systems. Now I will have to leave the game to check the weather, too. 👎 ---
**Author:** ![Zhi\_Fen-Chun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhi_fen-chun/32/249257_2.png) [@Zhi\_Fen-Chun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhi_Fen-Chun)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/179 "2020-08-04T18:18:13Z")
Minor Vics show on the route indicator and give you a warning, not comparable. ---
**Author:** ![Gaming513\_Tyler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaming513_tyler/32/360798_2.png) [@Gaming513\_Tyler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaming513_Tyler)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/180 "2020-08-04T18:23:20Z")
Do it, we need a weathergirl for this event. DOTLAN is messy enough already from the war ---
**Author:** ![Senyu\_Takashi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/senyu_takashi/32/213351_2.png) [@Senyu\_Takashi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Senyu_Takashi)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/181 "2020-08-04T18:24:34Z")
> [@Karles](#): > > Just checked for curiosity… > > Hisec char, no kills, carebear… Maybe you should give advice in other area, dude > > [Senyu Takashi | Character | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/character/844931058/) Oh really I am carebear? Guess my frequent excursions into sov 0.0 to look for anoms and sigs while locals try to catch me are nothing then? Or how about my efforts to get as many systems under Trig rule to effectively turn most of highsec into 0.0, that also makes me a carebear? Participating in PvP even if the odds are against me and I am almost certain to lose my ship also makes me a carebear? Funny that this comes from a GSF nullbear who is used to farm 24/7 with capital umbrella on standby, screaming on forums on the first notion his safespace is going to be disrupted and his only PvP participation being F1 monkeying in blobs… ---
**Author:** ![Daro\_Mozu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daro_mozu/32/184030_2.png) [@Daro\_Mozu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daro_Mozu)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/182 "2020-08-04T18:25:27Z")
Yes it does change. Those effects have rather small area of effect and are super tomporary but people are complaining about those effects being > [@Madras\_Dawnkeeper](#): > > another addition to the farms, fields and fortresses meta. How can a temporary effect in one constellation (and only if it´s a popular ratting area) be an addition to the meta for all nullsec regions - i have no idea. But if we are gonna go this way let´s take a closer look at electric storm. No cloacking and rather great nert on EM resist. Who will suffer because of this nerf? Those who encounter npc with EM dmg, thus being areas currently being held by Test and Goons due to sanshas and blood raiders damage types. The rest of nullkrabs will have it much easier or will not be affected at all. So once again: how exactly is it an another addition to the farms, fields and fortresses meta? ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511/183 "2020-08-04T18:26:40Z")
> [@Senyu\_Takashi](#): > > Guess my frequent excursions into sov 0.0 to look for anoms and sigs while locals try to catch me are nothing then? I mean… yeah. Having frequent excursions don’t really mean anything. I go diving into wormholes to do some Relic sites. That does not make me knowledgeable about wormhole life. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/coming-soon-metaliminal-storms-in-nullsec/258511.md?page=10)