# Commander Aze **URL:** \ **Category:** CSM Campaigns\ **Tags:** null-sec, high-sec, industrial\ **Created:** [December 21, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/commander-aze/46754 "2017-12-21T23:25:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![commander\_aze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_aze/32/209348_2.png) [@commander\_aze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/commander_aze)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/commander-aze/46754/1 "2017-12-21T23:25:28Z")
šŸšØšŸšØ **_Commander Aze for CSMXIII_** šŸšØšŸšØ **_Official Forum Thread_** **TLDR for the people that donā€™t read** **1. Little Things Initiative** **2. Improve overall health of the game through Quality of life improvements in all sec statuses** **3. Community Support** Persistence and Depth of knowledge. Welcome to my 5th CSM Campaign Every Year It gets better and better, I gain more experience and more depth of knowledge in other areas of Eve. What do I bring to the table you might ask. Iā€™m a long-term industrialist the numbers, and data type. I build various larger ships with my corporation including Capitals, Supercapitals, and Titans. I formerly ran a moon empire (all sub r32) So in terms of someone that understands the market and industrial Quality of Life issues specific to moon management, PI, and general industry. However, I am formerly a Fleet commander (slowly bringing it back) Between a former association with Spectre Fleet as an FC and multiple skirmish commander type roles in various groups I am a seasoned combat pilot also able to speak to many of the issues we run into now. I am a huge proponent of public eve communities and finding new ways to support and spread their availability to the masses. I am a former Spectre Fleet FC and formerly ran the Spectre Fleet Alliance Tournament Team. Additionally, I am an active (though novice skill level) participant within Dev Fleet focusing mainly on industrial tools. **_The Big Three_** **_Little things_** Simply put what are the little things that drive people nuts to letā€™s get them fixed, or at least bring them forward as problems to be looked at. This is easy because itā€™s not my idea, previous CSMā€™s have done this and I think itā€™s time QoL bring it back for some quick QoL fixes. **_Gamewide All Sec Healthā€¦and NPE_** Those that know me well know Iā€™ve lived in high sec for a long time and only recently moved to null and set up shop with the Bastion, Prior to this I set up in Amarr Space and tried my hand at building LINKK, a new player friendly high sec industrial alliance. [https://puu.sh/yIOAp/a278338536.png](https://puu.sh/yIOAp/a278338536.png) things wentā€¦ as expected. High sec is impossible to actually grow a group of any size without dying to some of the most frequently discussed broken mechanics in EVE the War Dec system. Iā€™m passionate about High sec and new player development so I wonā€™t say its the silver bullet but creating a system for both sides to be happy and logging in to actually play means more people might actually keep playing eve long term. There are other issues with high sec that need to be addressed as well but the War Dec mechanics are something Iā€™m particularly well versed in. Developing high sec directly supports all other security status areas in eve. Focusing on player retention, and removing or changing pain points like War Dec mechanics in high sec are key to this. Just as changing nullification/jump fatigue in low and null. **_Community support_** This comes in a variety of ways Id like to see supporting major player events such as the Alliance Tournament and other community events. I like many others am concerned with the layoffs of the Community management Devs This topic naturally might spring criticism when it comes to my membership within the Imperium I can assure you as always I will listen to what is best for the game as a whole taking input from anyone who is willing to reach out to me and those who I trust to reach out to as well. Below is a list of endorsements I gained outside of being in the Imperium prior to my time in the Bastion. I hope you take their words for it over a meta-gamed impression of me as a person. **_About Commander Aze_** IRL Job: Incident Workforce Management Specialist, Federal Incident Management Cadre. Long story short I work in disasters managing staffs from dozens of different agencies, states government, city governments and nonprofits coordinating common operational goals and objectives. Effectively I am the guy that gets the call in the middle of the night when something terrible happens and I work tirelessly to start fixing it. For example I managed a staff in the thousands in response to Hurricanes Harvey, Irma, and Maria last fall. I feel this experience directly translates to an ability to coordinate and communicate complex issues to CCP from groups around the Eve Universe. **_In Game Responsibilities and Playstyle_** Member Corporation of The Bastion Alliance [https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99004425/](https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99004425/) Subā€“Zero CEO [https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98189216/](https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98189216/) Supercapital Production and Industrial and Financial Mogul Small Gang and Theta Squad (Delve Defence Fleet) **_Former Associations and Experience_** Alliance Executor for Lin Kuei (LINKK) Spectre Fleet Fleet Commander, Captain of the Spectre Fleet Alliance Tournament Team, Highsec Alliance Executor C2 Wormhole Resident Drifter Incursion FC for ā€˜What Drifters?ā€™ Null Sec Industrial Corp CEO Incursion FC Former Catastrophic Uprising (CUP) FC / LC Former ECIO FC/ LC Former Battlement Coalition FC/ LC Serenity Initiative FC/ LC The Ditanian Fleet FC (Vanguards) _ **More About Me** _ [https://evewho.com/pilot/commander%20aze](https://evewho.com/pilot/commander%20aze) > **[commander aze | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/736517464/)** > > commander aze: 2,522 ships destroyed and 174 ships lost. **_How To Contact_** Tweetfleet Slack Discord (Statecraft/Bastion/TiS/INN/Spectre-fleet/scc-lounge/MindClash) Goonfleet Mumble Imperium Jabber Twitter @CommanderAze Email [frostmining@hotmail.com](mailto:frostmining@hotmail.com) Ingame and Forums **_Media Links (Previous Campaigns)_** > **[The JEFFRAIDER Show Episode 34 ā€“ Statecraft CSM Debates Ā» Crossing Zebras ā€“ EVE...](https://crossingzebras.com/the-jeffraider-show-episode-34-statecraft-csm-debates/)** > > Word up!We have a triple-headed monster for today! We had three batches of CSM candidates on to debate various topics. Iā€™ve broken this ep up into 3 sub episodes for easier consumption (and +2 dope tunes).Ā Ā Ā Hereā€™s Episode 34A: \[1:03\] The JEFFRAIDER... > **[r/Eve - AMA - Commander Aze NPSI Candidate for CSMXII](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/5wx0zk/ama_commander_aze_npsi_candidate_for_csmxii/)** > > 9 votes and 60 comments so far on Reddit [https://youtu.be/hYWqFmd5ews?t=1781](https://youtu.be/hYWqFmd5ews?t=1781) Eve Prosper > **[CSM12 Candidate: commander aze](https://eve-nt.uk/article/2017-03-03-201255-CSM12-Candidate-commander-aze/)** > > 1. Please start by giving us a short introduction to who ... > **[A High-Sec Coalition](http://nevillesmit.com/blog/2017/3/4/a-high-sec-coalition)** > > Last night, Dirk MacGirk , reknowned EVE media impresario, invited me once again to join the OpenComms podcast crew. He had invited several candidates for CSM12 who have joined together in a "high-sec ticket" - a group representing interests of... > **[Eight by eight](https://mikeazariah.wordpress.com/2017/03/05/eight-by-eight/)** > > He has an collage projected up on the wall,Ā  pictures of pilots, 8 across and 8 down.ā€Whatā€™s that rogues gallery for?ā€Ā  Scotty looked up at the display and tried to remember if heā€¦ > **[CSM voting suggestions - Fuzzwork Enterprises](https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/2017/03/05/csm-voting-suggestions/)** > > I am, of course, suggesting that you put me (Steve Ronuken) first on your ballot. I want to be elected after all šŸ˜‰ I would recommend you read the campaign posts, maybe do a little more research. Ā  So, onto other candidates to consider: Third party... > **[The Wardec Project](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gPk6UgyWdT1u3Mk5Ir_gTNCJ2V_bS0INcTsWBpRPxxY/edit?usp=sharing)** > > The Wardec Project This project was originally conceived by Tora Bushido, CEO of the Marmite Collective, and Jason Quixos, of Space Cadet Online & Mass of Wrecks in Oct. 2015. It is now being managed by Toxic Yaken. OVERVIEW Wardecs have many... [https://soundcloud.com/mt-erall/tis-32417-refineries-and-moon-mining](https://soundcloud.com/mt-erall/tis-32417-refineries-and-moon-mining) [https://soundcloud.com/mt-erall/tis-lounge-ccp-fozzie-q-a](https://soundcloud.com/mt-erall/tis-lounge-ccp-fozzie-q-a) [https://youtu.be/crgleGaFpOU?t=499](https://youtu.be/crgleGaFpOU?t=499) Ashterothi > **[CSM XII DoW Ballot](http://declarationsofwar.com/csm-xii-dow-ballot/#.WL8hvf8YAT0.twitter)** > > Well folks, it's that time of year: the voting for CSM has begun! I hope that you've all had a chance to listen to our CSM panels andĀ that you found them useful in deciding whom to vote for this election. The polls are open between now a [https://www.eve-nt.uk/2016/02/13/csm-xi-profiles-commander-aze/](https://www.eve-nt.uk/2016/02/13/csm-xi-profiles-commander-aze/) [http://podside.net/eve-online/manny-bothans-is-primary-episode-26/](http://podside.net/eve-online/manny-bothans-is-primary-episode-26/) https://html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/4835794/theme/custom/height/480/width/640/custom-color/#87A93A/menu/no/tdest_id/431773 > **[CSM 11 Elections Begin ā€“ Xenuria 2016](https://tagn.wordpress.com/2016/03/01/csm-11-elections-begin-xenuria-2016/)** > > It is that time of year again, the long threatened CSM 11 elections are upon us.Ā  Information on how to vote is available from CCP here. Reactions to the election range from the very earnest attempā€¦ [http://csmwatch.com/2016/01/20/csm-11-show-1/](http://csmwatch.com/2016/01/20/csm-11-show-1/) [http://csmwatch.com/2016/01/15/csm-11-candidate-interview-commander-aze/](http://csmwatch.com/2016/01/15/csm-11-candidate-interview-commander-aze/) [http://mindclash.live/mind-clash-podcast-episode-19/](http://mindclash.live/mind-clash-podcast-episode-19/) > **[CSM XI Round Table 1](http://declarationsofwar.com/csm-xi-round-table-1/)** > > I'm going in there ready for warA discussion of the role of the CSM hosted by Alekseyev Karrde.Featuring:ArythĀ ( > **[Open Comms Feb-3-2017](http://opencomms.gamingradio.net/open-comms-feb-3-2017/)** > > Vic Jefferson Arenthor Commander Aze Roedyn Suitonia CSM candidates join us to answer questions, discuss important topics and of course shots!! Ā  Ā  Ā  [https://puu.sh/u6KwR/63a818b520.png](https://puu.sh/u6KwR/63a818b520.png) Eve Prosper CSMXII > **[ROEDYN: A CSM12 CANDIDATE DIARY #3 WAKING UP HIGH SEC](https://eve-nt.uk/article/2017-02-21-232004-ROEDYN-A-CSM12-CANDIDATE-DIARY-3-WAKING-UP-HIGH-SEC/)** > > As the days go by, more and more players are ... [http://csmwatch.com/2016/01/20/csm-11-show-1/](http://csmwatch.com/2016/01/20/csm-11-show-1/) [http://csmwatch.com/2016/01/15/csm-11-candidate-interview-commander-aze/](http://csmwatch.com/2016/01/15/csm-11-candidate-interview-commander-aze/) [https://mikeazariah.wordpress.com/2016/02/28/the-sorting-hat-13/](https://mikeazariah.wordpress.com/2016/02/28/the-sorting-hat-13/) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zONZZNkDu5o](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zONZZNkDu5o) **_former Writer and Current Copy Editor for Imperium News Network_** > **[BREAKING NEWS: Shadow Cartel Vendetta Down](https://imperium.news/author/commander-aze/)** > > Imperium News Network ā€“ EVE Online News > **[Wars, What Are They Good For? - INN](https://imperium.news/wars-what-are-they-good-for/)** > > If you have ventured through high sec for any length of time you probably have had war declared on you. Whether you deserved it or not, it changes how you play for that week. Our low, null, and wormhole space... **_Positive Community Mentions_** ā€œI think heā€™s getting the hang of runningā€¦ He is actually improvingā€ @Noizygamr ā€œHe does seem to know his stuff and is extremely active running his csm campaignā€ LockeFox Eve Prosper Host ā€œI put him in my Yeah. He is getting better running which in turn means he is listening to the advice and listening is an Excellent skill.ā€ & ā€œCommnade aze and I cross paths often enough in working with alphas and he is good in communication skills.ā€ Mike Asariah ā€œThe only real bear in here is Aze and heā€™s not a retardā€ Vimsy Vortis (War Deck Project) ā€œHe is very persistent, wouldnā€™t mind him on CSMā€ Fuzzy Steve ā€œ4. Commander Aze: Aze has fantastic passion and attention to detail. Iā€™ve never seen a single candidate grow so much from one year to the next as he has since run unsuccessfully last year. This year heā€™s ready.ā€ Alekseyev Karrde Declarations of War Podcast ā€œI didnā€™t know he was running, Best of Luckā€ Laztel ā€œas alliances official spectre fleet FC I would like to recommend that if you have spare vote give it to commander aze he is spectre fleets, official candidate.ā€ Hutter (Eve Skunk email to Alliance Legio De Mortem) ā€œJin Taan, Roedyn and Commander Aze, these are our top 3ā€ MindClash Podcast ā€œGood Luck on your Campaignā€ Ashterothi ā€œA great guy with a vision for the future, and someone I could trust with anything in game pr out.ā€ Orion Sa-Solo ā€œHope he does wellā€ Manny Bothans Podside Podcast ā€œIā€™ll be voting for you Commanderā€ Tengu Grib **Videos from Alliance tournament** (Because Real Men Hull Tank) **Videos From FCing Spectre Fleet** **CSM Campaign Threads** [https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=323767](https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=323767) CSM9 Campaign [https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5331101](https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5331101) CSMX Campaign [https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6301619](https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6301619) CSMXI Campaign [https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=506400](https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=506400) CSMXII Campaign **Want to hear my case?** > **[CSM Chat ā€“ Commander Aze Ā» Crossing Zebras ā€“ EVE Online articles, videos, news](https://crossingzebras.com/csm-chat-commander-aze/)** > > it is is CSM time once again, and it may often be difficult to know who to vote for. I have often felt that the CSM election process doesnā€™t often coincide with the real purpose of the CSM. Members of the CSM are our representatives to CCP. While I... ---
**Author:** ![commander\_aze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_aze/32/209348_2.png) [@commander\_aze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/commander_aze)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/commander-aze/46754/2 "2017-12-21T23:25:44Z")
Reserved ---
**Author:** ![Gambit\_306](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gambit_306/32/45211_2.png) [@Gambit\_306](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gambit_306)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/commander-aze/46754/3 "2017-12-22T00:11:06Z")
Great ideas from an all-around good guy! Gets my votes. ---
**Author:** ![J\_Mcclain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/j_mcclain/32/225783_2.png) [@J\_Mcclain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/J_Mcclain)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/commander-aze/46754/4 "2018-01-08T20:06:26Z")
Has my vote! Tons of experience with the campaign process and has done an absolute ton of work on outreach for under represented folks in the game. ---
**Author:** ![commander\_aze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_aze/32/209348_2.png) [@commander\_aze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/commander_aze)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/commander-aze/46754/5 "2018-01-30T22:49:06Z")
Check out last nightā€™s Mindclash podcast to see some new coverage of recent events! ---
**Author:** ![commander\_aze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_aze/32/209348_2.png) [@commander\_aze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/commander_aze)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/commander-aze/46754/6 "2018-02-03T08:11:24Z")
Some resent topics of discussion Blops rebalance (please ccp) and afk cloakingā€¦ we should have a slow but fun way of tracking cloaked ships. Where active campers are safe and ago campers can get dumpsters for not paying attention. Yet another thing Iā€™d be happy to bring to ccp. ---
**Author:** ![Xenuria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xenuria/32/264531_2.png) [@Xenuria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xenuria)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/commander-aze/46754/7 "2018-02-05T15:55:44Z")
This appears to be a well coordinated and planned out campaign thread complete with multiple resources, references and methods of contact. I know next to nothing about you but if your organizational skills in this thread are any indication, your better than the trenders who run for funzies. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/commander-aze/46754/8 "2018-02-05T16:21:54Z")
You are a Goon now, right? ---
**Author:** ![commander\_aze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_aze/32/209348_2.png) [@commander\_aze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/commander_aze)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/commander-aze/46754/9 "2018-02-05T17:42:54Z")
I am in the Bastion alliance (within the imperium) as of May or so of last year, despite my move to null high sec is still a passion of mine and I will as always take the views of any and all players to CCP. My constituents are anyone who plays eve. Youā€™ll notice I am campaigning despite having a massive block to potentially back me. I do understand politically speaking some people may not vote for me due to where I live in eve, I simply hope that my reputation for being fair, understanding, and supportive to any and all players continues to show through. If you would like i can discuss why I chose to move to delve versus other offers my former high sec alliance had. ---
**Author:** ![commander\_aze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_aze/32/209348_2.png) [@commander\_aze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/commander_aze)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/commander-aze/46754/10 "2018-02-05T17:44:46Z")
Iā€™d hope my 5th campaign for CSM has some semblance of organization šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Oreb\_Wing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oreb_wing/32/170827_2.png) [@Oreb\_Wing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oreb_Wing)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/commander-aze/46754/11 "2018-02-06T17:13:17Z")
How well versed would you say you are with lowsec, or Factional Warfare lowsec specifically? ---
**Author:** ![D\_nara\_Atreidis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/d_nara_atreidis/32/109595_2.png) [@D\_nara\_Atreidis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/D_nara_Atreidis)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 4:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/commander-aze/46754/12 "2018-02-07T04:31:48Z")
You got my vote aze. Has good ideas and cares about more than just one region of the game. Moving to imperium didnā€™t change that. ---
**Author:** ![commander\_aze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_aze/32/209348_2.png) [@commander\_aze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/commander_aze)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/commander-aze/46754/13 "2018-02-07T06:17:27Z")
Faction warfare isnā€™t in a healthy state mainly to do with citadel mechanics from what I can tell, I havenā€™t done faction warfare since my early days of eve. Here is what I can say, I ran fleets in Low and faction warfare space with Spectre for a long time. So I know the struggles at least from a window looking in. I wont pretend to be an expert but I can say if you have a valid idea or pitch to CCP on the Topic I will strive to be the candidate that will listen, regardless of affiliation of corps or militias. I have friends that I can reach out to act as expert advice on the topic, and Iā€™m also open to talking to the community via person to person I frequent TiS discord and INN discord as well as a few podcasts as seen above, additionally townhall type events specific to underrepresented playstyles and sec status areas as I feel CCP tends to ignore the impacts or at least not have someone viewing it from the perspective of those playstyles. ---
**Author:** ![commander\_aze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_aze/32/209348_2.png) [@commander\_aze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/commander_aze)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/commander-aze/46754/14 "2018-02-10T21:40:40Z")
That awkward moment when it seems like the elections going to be moved way offā€¦ probably for the best. Just finished a full review of the minutes. Im pretty happy with Sort and Aryth asking the questions everyone wants answers to. We need to take time to iterate or fix things before we make new things. Jump fatigue and nullification are two big things to address. Among many others. We need a new crucible. ---
**Author:** ![TheGuy\_Akachi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theguy_akachi/32/478757_2.png) [@TheGuy\_Akachi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheGuy_Akachi)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/commander-aze/46754/15 "2018-02-13T02:04:14Z")
How do you feel about the sate of mining? Although we have been given some new mining content with the new refineries and active moon mining, I feel there are other problems that still need to be addressed. Mining is really bad if you are a solo-boxing (not multi-boxing and using alts to boost yourself and add more miners to your fleet). This is unfair to small mining corps of real players, since mining ops need to be organized, and usually happen at most once a week. A fleet of real players mine the same amount as a multi-boxing fleet of the same size, thus minimizing the incentive for real miners to work together. This could be considered equivalent of someone being able to multi an incursion. If this was the case, no one would fleet up to do them, since they could do them solo, multiboxed. On top of that, in the recent blogpost about botting, it appears most banned botters appear to be botters. ---
**Author:** ![commander\_aze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_aze/32/209348_2.png) [@commander\_aze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/commander_aze)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/commander-aze/46754/16 "2018-02-13T07:05:39Z")
So a couple things. I was running a small high sec group for years. We mined the ā– ā– ā– ā–  out of amarr space. And you are right a multiboxer Makes the same as a small fleet Of individuals of the same size and composition. However they are also putting the same risk on the field and same equipment on the field. This can be tricky to give bonuses to a group of individuals over a group of alts as mechanically they are the same. Now I sympathise with the issue but Iā€™m also guilty of the opposite with my 3 mains I run 3 rorqs but also go out mining with my Corpmates and we bring a small fleet out. Given our 7 guys launch 15 rorqs. The scales a little messed up. But itā€™s the same as one guy controlling 15 rorqs. All the accounts are paid in plex and should be treated equally. Now for botting. Ban them all. Mining is the number one bot out there because it is predictable and easy to code. Ratting is a lot more operations and changes so costs more to dev a bot. Thatā€™s why they are skewed the way they are. Regardless ban them all. Iā€™m pro keeping the ban in key broadcasting in programs like inboxes. Incursions. Iā€™ve multiboxed four toons in a incursion and made bank doing it. But itā€™s a ridiculous amount of work. Imaging doing every part of the fleet yourself. Itā€™s not easy. And you get burnt out fast doing it. The worry hear is isboxer keybroadcasting. Of which I do not support and should stay banned. Effectively as long as itā€™s one click per account per action and you have to click all the things multiboxing is effectively having more peopleā€¦ in a split personality kind of way. Now the root question. The state of mining. High sec mining sucks. Low sec sucks. Null holy cap there gold in the fields. Itā€™s a little too easy to make money in rorqs but at some point the issue of cost benefit becomes a consent. I donā€™t think we have hit that line but I worry about adjusting the dial again. ---
**Author:** ![TheGuy\_Akachi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theguy_akachi/32/478757_2.png) [@TheGuy\_Akachi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheGuy_Akachi)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/commander-aze/46754/17 "2018-02-13T14:41:39Z")
Thanks for your response! ---
**Author:** ![commander\_aze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_aze/32/209348_2.png) [@commander\_aze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/commander_aze)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/commander-aze/46754/18 "2018-02-14T06:43:23Z")
I hope that answers the question but as with everything Iā€™m open to other ideas or points of view. ---
**Author:** ![commander\_aze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_aze/32/209348_2.png) [@commander\_aze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/commander_aze)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/commander-aze/46754/19 "2018-02-14T06:47:20Z")
> **[The Mind Clash Podcast - Episode 71: Assault of the Frigs](https://open.spotify.com/episode/06cgCdTkxdvnrFr8VSQTck?si=fWWAE6TqTrW-ikV_SqtEqA)** > > To talk about the coming (soon tm) changes to Assault Frigates, we have invited some experts in the field. Returning guest King Voodoo, super streamer Zarvox, Cyclo the Mind Clash #hypeman, and a ton of others join us to give us the deets on what we... Mind clash podcast media event check them out on Spotify. Will post this weekā€™s 3hour long coverage of the CSM minutes once it is available. Great show and Iā€™ll always recommend listening in. Also major bonus mike asariah was on this weekā€™s so itā€™s a real treat! ---
**Author:** ![commander\_aze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_aze/32/209348_2.png) [@commander\_aze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/commander_aze)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/commander-aze/46754/20 "2018-02-15T09:51:30Z")
Media Event Appearance Notice > **[The Mind Clash Podcast - Episode 73 - CSM Winter Summit 2018](https://open.spotify.com/episode/3tdO2PhvvqZ6dPelrEC3xR?si=n_yd9ousQfuiM_IMILx3EQ)** > > This week we discuss the CSM Winter Summit minutes on the eve of the February 13th patch which brings the Upwell 2.0 Changes, The return to the Guardians Gala Agency Event, and the Assault Frigate Changes / Assault Damage Control. Thanks to Cyclo... Newest Mindclash Podcast covering CSM [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/commander-aze/46754.md?page=2)