# Community Intervention - Help me talk sense into my friend =( **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 16, 2020, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/community-intervention-help-me-talk-sense-into-my-friend/255143 "2020-07-16T01:56:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/community-intervention-help-me-talk-sense-into-my-friend/255143/1 "2020-07-16T01:56:35Z")
Good EVEning, fellow capsuleers! I require the community’s help in reaching out to a capsuleer who is failing to see the error of his ways. @Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras, who will henceforth be referred to as Anonymous to protect his privacy and shield him from public humiliation, is doing low level PVE in a… I can’t bear to say this… an active-tanked Cruise Raven (with deadspace shield boosters, no less). That’s right. He’s active tanking a ship with an operational range of 200km that pretty much never gets touched after MWDing out far beyond the range of 99% of rats encountered in low-level PVE (using an initial MJD if necessary to escape a killing field and keep shields from breaking). I’ve tried explaining to him that a Cruise Raven doing low level PVE requires a grand total of zero defense modules provided it has both an MWD and a MJD since range alone will keep virtually all rats from touching him (the few that can touch him at that range would simply be prioritized) - even with the lowest possible skills needed to fly such a fit he would be safe - but Anonymous will not listen to reason! I mean sure, if it were using RHMLs or Torpedoes then tanking could be (somewhat) justified but… cruise missiles? On a range-bonused hull, no less? He’s crazy! He needs help! He needs intervention! Please, EVE Forums, help me help Anonymous! ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/f/cf7774a49f0f5ef10b050b2456b6efb0f3ee2cc4.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/community-intervention-help-me-talk-sense-into-my-friend/255143/2 "2020-07-16T01:59:55Z")
What times does he usually play and in which system? I know some guys who may be able to help him out. They say experience is the best teacher… ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/community-intervention-help-me-talk-sense-into-my-friend/255143/3 "2020-07-16T02:01:21Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/f/bffc5bb2fe99e56f3234bb2aa2d007dfe1904c53.png) ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/community-intervention-help-me-talk-sense-into-my-friend/255143/4 "2020-07-16T02:01:48Z")
@Destiny_Corrupted it took you 30 seconds to “type” that. So my question to you is: how the ■■■■ do you “type” that??? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/community-intervention-help-me-talk-sense-into-my-friend/255143/5 "2020-07-16T02:03:57Z")
i’m working on getting a new fit, especially one that will actually reach past 200km… my targeting isn’t great and im maxed out on skills… just need to find a better fit… ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/community-intervention-help-me-talk-sense-into-my-friend/255143/6 "2020-07-16T02:04:59Z")
His fit makes sense. Maybe he has kids. He can wander off for 30 minutes and come back - his ship will still be there. ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/community-intervention-help-me-talk-sense-into-my-friend/255143/7 "2020-07-16T02:05:05Z")
Geo you’ve been saying that for over three months ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/community-intervention-help-me-talk-sense-into-my-friend/255143/8 "2020-07-16T02:05:48Z")
and i barely turned the game on in those 3 months too… covid, going crazy not touching people, depression etc. did i mention i procrastinate? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/community-intervention-help-me-talk-sense-into-my-friend/255143/9 "2020-07-16T02:06:44Z")
> [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](#): > > @Destiny_Corrupted it took you 30 seconds to “type” that. So my question to you is: how the ■■■■ do you “type” that??? The FBI screens everything I do online? Edit: You clever little goose! - Agent Johnson Edit: Dude stop it, you’re embarrassing me in front of my EVE friends… ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/community-intervention-help-me-talk-sense-into-my-friend/255143/10 "2020-07-16T02:07:20Z")
is that pesky white van still out there?? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/community-intervention-help-me-talk-sense-into-my-friend/255143/11 "2020-07-16T02:09:31Z")
That’s probably @Destiny_Corrupted’s free candy van, it helps her to blend in with the feds. ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/community-intervention-help-me-talk-sense-into-my-friend/255143/12 "2020-07-16T02:10:29Z")
This post was really intended to bait Destiny… now that she’s here… @Destiny_Corrupted , we need to have a group intervention… about that viagra shipment you stole from… nevermind where… Okay, so it’s really TWO interventions: Geo’s Raven and Destiny’s… I don’t know how to describe what he has done or WHY. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/community-intervention-help-me-talk-sense-into-my-friend/255143/13 "2020-07-16T02:11:43Z")
First there was the Blue Man Group, now there’s the Blue Pill Group. ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/community-intervention-help-me-talk-sense-into-my-friend/255143/14 "2020-07-16T02:14:01Z")
Geo: replace your shield mods with missile guidance computers scripted with range scripts. And rigs with range/rig/flare. Destiny: Let go… of the viagra… ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 2:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/community-intervention-help-me-talk-sense-into-my-friend/255143/15 "2020-07-16T02:16:44Z")
> [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](#): > > Okay, so it’s really TWO interventions: Geo’s Raven and Destiny’s… I don’t know how to describe what he has done or WHY. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/3/53a7f9d889367b4fcc83fb7405037df053dcdbbf.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Serene\_Repose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/serene_repose/32/384960_2.png) [@Serene\_Repose](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Serene_Repose)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/community-intervention-help-me-talk-sense-into-my-friend/255143/16 "2020-07-16T03:09:27Z")
Yeah, he said that in the OP. Google (name of ship) fit. Be amazed. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 3:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/community-intervention-help-me-talk-sense-into-my-friend/255143/17 "2020-07-16T03:14:06Z")
i got a fit… ty though. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 6:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/community-intervention-help-me-talk-sense-into-my-friend/255143/18 "2020-07-16T06:00:50Z")
🔴 > [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](#): > > pretty much never gets touched after MWDing Who the hell puts an MWD on a PVE Raven? God, you people are so bad. ---
**Author:** ![Ishmael\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ishmael_ronuken/32/209150_2.png) [@Ishmael\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ishmael_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/community-intervention-help-me-talk-sense-into-my-friend/255143/19 "2020-07-16T08:53:57Z")
Could be worse. He could be a dead space blinged mission-running rattlesnake. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/community-intervention-help-me-talk-sense-into-my-friend/255143/20 "2020-07-16T08:55:19Z")
Bring the horse to the water. And give it a properly fitted raven to try out. ![download](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/2/621ed572719bf2854538f6a211a39e737cd78466.jpeg) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/community-intervention-help-me-talk-sense-into-my-friend/255143.md?page=2)