# \[COMPLETED\] 20201128 - In-Game Chat Issues **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** official\ **Created:** [November 28, 2020, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-20201128-in-game-chat-issues/282443 "2020-11-28T19:12:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Domunos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/domunos/32/235019_2.png) [@Domunos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Domunos)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-20201128-in-game-chat-issues/282443/453 "2020-12-08T01:33:08Z")
An unreliable local chat is bad for everyone, pve or pvp. I am sure if I looked I will find things published by CCP stating that local is tool to be used to keep you safe in different situations. Broken local chat has bled into broken corp and fleet chats too. Not to mention the isolation it brings when you cannot see other people that are in the same system as you. You cannot talk to them, can only interact if you happen to be on the same grid as them or see them docked in the same station as you. How are we expected to make new friends if we cannot talk to them? ---
**Author:** ![Pedro\_Yurgin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pedro_yurgin/32/361653_2.png) [@Pedro\_Yurgin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pedro_Yurgin)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-20201128-in-game-chat-issues/282443/454 "2020-12-08T01:59:41Z")
I don’t think you use Dotlan. There is absolutely no way to know there are 4 miners out mining in belts. Its too small and doesn’t really show up on the metrics. There isn’t one for rock killing. It would tic on your rats you kill but roid rats aren’t enough. ---
**Author:** ![Last\_Ninja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/last_ninja/32/373937_2.png) [@Last\_Ninja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Last_Ninja)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-20201128-in-game-chat-issues/282443/455 "2020-12-08T15:14:19Z")
Chat still sketchy - keep s disconnecting from chat ext - I remember when CCP said, this the last time if chat stops working again, we go back to the old way of the chat client and it been down more times than a prostitute’s knickers @FC_Convict You may think you fixed it but you have not, role it back it was fine for 13 years! ---
**Author:** ![leavwiz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leavwiz/32/235353_2.png) [@leavwiz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/leavwiz)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-20201128-in-game-chat-issues/282443/456 "2020-12-08T15:27:56Z")
i am aware that dotan wont show 4 miners. but it does show activity so it is easy to find mining fleets or ratters. let me know when the people that live in a system get something from ccp that shows intruders comging and going ---
**Author:** ![Pedro\_Yurgin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pedro_yurgin/32/361653_2.png) [@Pedro\_Yurgin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pedro_Yurgin)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-20201128-in-game-chat-issues/282443/457 "2020-12-09T20:46:08Z")
Jumps is there. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro\_Yurgin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pedro_yurgin/32/361653_2.png) [@Pedro\_Yurgin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pedro_Yurgin)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-20201128-in-game-chat-issues/282443/458 "2020-12-09T20:46:31Z")
Also ship and pod kills ---
**Author:** ![leavwiz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leavwiz/32/235353_2.png) [@leavwiz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/leavwiz)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2020, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-20201128-in-game-chat-issues/282443/459 "2020-12-09T23:23:38Z")
valid points. however not the same as the agency telling you exactly how much isk is in the ESS and giving you a set destination button to go there. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2020, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-20201128-in-game-chat-issues/282443/460 "2020-12-10T16:40:35Z")
> [@Domunos](#): > > Is this just a problem for a small number of people? I think local was working correctly only 1 day out of the last 5 days for me. My characters were even showing in local chat when I was not logged into the game. > > I don’t see any communication about ongoing issues with local other then on the 28th. The last update here was it would be fixed by downtime 5 days ago. Local (and chat in general) has been buggy on and off since March 2018 when they changed from in-house chat server to amazon cloud chat server. It’s been 30+ months straight of this, sometimes better than others… but always, always the chance for different amounts of toons showing in local to different people. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro\_Yurgin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pedro_yurgin/32/361653_2.png) [@Pedro\_Yurgin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pedro_Yurgin)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-20201128-in-game-chat-issues/282443/461 "2020-12-11T03:27:14Z")
You remember when they said, “if this doesn’t work; we’ll go back.” hahahahahahahahahahahha ---
**Author:** ![Throwaway\_Alternate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/throwaway_alternate/32/243283_2.png) [@Throwaway\_Alternate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Throwaway_Alternate)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-20201128-in-game-chat-issues/282443/462 "2020-12-11T21:08:21Z")
YET AGAIN! No ■■■■■■■ chat. Holy ■■■■■■■ ■■■■ you people are the single worst developers I have ever seen in my entire career. I would HATE to be anywhere near anything you clowns had anything to do with at this point. I have never seen a service this badly mismanaged and just utterly broken in my entire career. I have literally watched people put user credentials in plain text in their web directory and you make them look like paragons of technical competence. Seriously, holy ■■■■■■■ ■■■■! Get your heads out of your asses and do your damn jobs or shut the damn game down, this is a scam at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Domunos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/domunos/32/235019_2.png) [@Domunos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Domunos)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-20201128-in-game-chat-issues/282443/464 "2020-12-13T07:41:12Z")
Local chat was broken for me again, color tags were not working consistently also. Two characters with the same overview settings; one showed an empire war target tagged correctly, the other did not show him as a war target. No tag in local, and in space, he was not marked with the red flashy background that the other character showed. When local chats have been broken, I have seen these color tags missing from people docked in stations under the Guests tab but never in space. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro\_Yurgin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pedro_yurgin/32/361653_2.png) [@Pedro\_Yurgin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pedro_Yurgin)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-20201128-in-game-chat-issues/282443/465 "2020-12-14T17:42:14Z")
It seems to have been stable for a couple of days now. Great! For how long? Who knows. Every time they do a fix or an update you just never know what code they step on. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-20201128-in-game-chat-issues/282443/466 "2021-03-14T17:42:24Z")
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