# \[COMPLETED\] Extended Downtime Notification - 7 December 2021 **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** release, extended-downtime, official\ **Created:** [December 6, 2021, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324 "2021-12-06T14:03:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Paliphany\_Bradbury](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/paliphany_bradbury/32/441256_2.png) [@Paliphany\_Bradbury](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Paliphany_Bradbury)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324/90 "2021-12-06T17:52:02Z")
> [@Vanessa\_Warwind](#): > > Also a big reaon why nobody does pi. High sec not worth it you have to pay mafia lvls of taxes on most custom offices as they are controled by like 2 or 3 entties all over high sec. This! So much this! I’d consider taking on the risk of destroying and building customs facilities of my own but who in high sec can take on a monopolies that can just sit back and extort billions/day? With the new T2 BPs, T2 ship and module building is feeling the pain. It makes new players feel like EVE overall is a waste of time. Fixing the capacity issues related to PI is a good move and appreciated but these extortionist PI taxes by a couple monopolies make PI in high sec pointless. Currently in High Sec, when PI production time is figured in, it’s more cost effective to risk the cost of an Obelisk to get PI materials on the market than to pay the taxes and chew real time gathering PI. Unless the thought is to effectively give High Sec a T1 ship & component cap. In which case, well played CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Mealka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mealka/32/383414_2.png) [@Mealka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mealka)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324/91 "2021-12-06T17:56:23Z")
Keep mining on boys ! > **[Orca in belt - Wallpaper #423](https://www.eve-wallpaper.com/photo/423/orca-in-belt)** ---
**Author:** ![Harley-1998\_Davidson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harley-1998_davidson/32/390884_2.png) [@Harley-1998\_Davidson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harley-1998_Davidson)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324/92 "2021-12-06T17:57:41Z")
Totally agree that there are 3 or 4 big alliances in HS that control the Custom Offices Taxes are way to high to justify PI in HS, so I just have not done my PI in over 6 months It aint worth it any more yup > Also a big reaon why nobody does pi. High sec not worth it you have to pay mafia lvls of taxes on most custom offices as they are controled by like 2 or 3 entties all over high sec. ---
**Author:** ![Harley-1998\_Davidson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harley-1998_davidson/32/390884_2.png) [@Harley-1998\_Davidson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harley-1998_Davidson)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324/94 "2021-12-06T18:04:08Z")
Mine does not say Coherent ore processing I ---
**Author:** ![MinorFreak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minorfreak/32/401122_2.png) [@MinorFreak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinorFreak)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324/95 "2021-12-06T18:05:48Z")
nvm. it was just the random nature of copy/paste of the new skill queue/plan stuff that got me confused ---
**Author:** ![Harley-1998\_Davidson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harley-1998_davidson/32/390884_2.png) [@Harley-1998\_Davidson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harley-1998_Davidson)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324/96 "2021-12-06T18:06:51Z")
thought i would have to drink a few shots to straighten out the eye balls ---
**Author:** ![MinorFreak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minorfreak/32/401122_2.png) [@MinorFreak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinorFreak)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324/97 "2021-12-06T18:09:36Z")
Industry 1 Reprocessing 1 Reprocessing 2 Reprocessing 3 Reprocessing 4 Reprocessing 5 Science 1 Science 2 Science 3 Simple Ore Processing 1 Coherent Ore Processing 1 Simple Ore Processing 2 Coherent Ore Processing 2 Simple Ore Processing 3 Coherent Ore Processing 3 Science 4 Metallurgy 1 Metallurgy 2 Metallurgy 3 Reprocessing Efficiency 1 Reprocessing Efficiency 2 Reprocessing Efficiency 3 Reprocessing Efficiency 4 Variegated Ore Processing 1 Variegated Ore Processing 2 Variegated Ore Processing 3 Metallurgy 4 Reprocessing Efficiency 5 Complex Ore Processing 1 Complex Ore Processing 2 Complex Ore Processing 3 Simple Ore Processing 4 Variegated Ore Processing 4 Coherent Ore Processing 4 Complex Ore Processing 4 skill queue (fixed random allocation) for importing…well, assuming TQ gets importing. =( fyi, i didn’t add the abyssal because apparently that’s “must purchase from market” skill…_whisper_ but don’t worry cuz spodumain crystals are in with complex. ikr? so not confusing at all since now it’s blue triangle exclusive. ---
**Author:** ![Zxmagus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zxmagus/32/296279_2.png) [@Zxmagus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zxmagus)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324/98 "2021-12-06T18:14:03Z")
Congrats on killing your game i guess. ---
**Author:** ![Suki\_Vokkonen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/suki_vokkonen/32/382402_2.png) [@Suki\_Vokkonen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Suki_Vokkonen)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324/99 "2021-12-06T18:17:17Z")
> [@Lauralite\_Anne\_Brezia](#): > > > [@MILINT\_ARC\_Trooper](#): > > > > Also you better reconsider the Ice Residue because that is going to massively mess up the Winter Nexus Event. I don’t think people are going to like getting one out of three cycle drop rates with an RNG factor that can end with alot of stuff being lost. > > currently, on hoboleaks, it looks as though things like event materials and mining mission materials will ignore residue/waste entirely Assuming it works… I’m currently on Singularity, having a missiong for Green Arisite (Gneiss). And with Modulate Strip Miner II equiped with Variegated Asteroid Mining Crystal Type A I… and I can’t use the strip miners… “[…] Variegated Asteroid Mining Crystal Type A I is not calibrated to mine Green Arisite” First time using crystals, I’ll admit, so could be a Code 18 case. ---
**Author:** ![Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaizen_trader_oramara/32/353007_2.png) [@Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaizen_Trader_Oramara)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324/100 "2021-12-06T18:20:09Z")
Is there going to be gas and moon goo compression? ---
**Author:** ![Harley-1998\_Davidson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harley-1998_davidson/32/390884_2.png) [@Harley-1998\_Davidson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harley-1998_Davidson)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324/101 "2021-12-06T18:23:32Z")
No not this patch ---
**Author:** ![Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaizen_trader_oramara/32/353007_2.png) [@Kaizen\_Trader\_Oramara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaizen_Trader_Oramara)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324/102 "2021-12-06T18:25:10Z")
Rats… ☹ ---
**Author:** ![MinorFreak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minorfreak/32/401122_2.png) [@MinorFreak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinorFreak)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324/103 "2021-12-06T18:34:22Z")
can you do that with crystals currently? it’s been so long since i did a mining mission ---
**Author:** ![Suki\_Vokkonen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/suki_vokkonen/32/382402_2.png) [@Suki\_Vokkonen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Suki_Vokkonen)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324/104 "2021-12-06T18:44:13Z")
I don’t use T2 strip miner on TQ, so I don’t know. Edit: though, current mining mission guides suggest to use the appropriate crystals, so I assume it does. ---
**Author:** ![meppa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meppa/32/437583_2.png) [@meppa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/meppa)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324/105 "2021-12-06T18:58:02Z")
So… No winter blog? No patch notes? Pushing this live and hiding it behind extended downtime notification?? Way to go CCP you are outperforming yourselves atm! ---
**Author:** ![MinorFreak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minorfreak/32/401122_2.png) [@MinorFreak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinorFreak)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324/106 "2021-12-06T19:06:51Z")
[insert obligatory cringe] ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324/107 "2021-12-06T19:13:59Z")
Before the changes to barges go live, is it really intentional that **the Procurer takes over 20 seconds to align** while the Covetor can do it in less than 10? Or should I send in a quick bug report to get that fixed before release tomorrow? Something seems seriously messed up with the masses + agilities of the barges. Why are the high yield barge and exhumer now twice as agile as the combat-oriented barge and exhumer? Previously they were the _slow_ ones, but had superior yield to make up for it. They still have that yield, but now get additional EHP, and agility too? Is that intentional? ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324/108 "2021-12-06T19:17:27Z")
![flowchart](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/6/9/16931111a5d2b8e94e6901a5b5db72964b35a884.png) ---
**Author:** ![Lauralite\_Anne\_Brezia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lauralite_anne_brezia/32/380065_2.png) [@Lauralite\_Anne\_Brezia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lauralite_Anne_Brezia)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324/109 "2021-12-06T19:24:09Z")
there will be a full patch notes set tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Nyrak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nyrak/32/296189_2.png) [@Nyrak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nyrak)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2021, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324/110 "2021-12-06T19:40:41Z")
And CCP has NEVER forgotten to add something important to the patch notes, only to eventually respond when enough players call them out. I am pretty positive CCP is attempting to ram this patch through to prove a point - their egos are NOT frail! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/completed-extended-downtime-notification-7-december-2021/340324.md?page=6)