# Concern about Highsec Ganking, Fake “Consequences,” and Omega Players as Farm Content **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 17, 2026, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818 "2026-02-17T17:41:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/266 "2026-02-23T15:23:46Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > Yet to see a coherent argument against removing the P2W of security status tags, that topic is being conveniently ignored. First: If your base assumption is already wrong it is hard to discuss “solutions” to a “problem” that doesn’t really exist. Because _you_ have failed bring a single coherent argument against the point that basically _everyone can learn how to avoid being ganked with a handful of pretty easy steps_. Second: I am all with you that the Security Tags are a pretty stupid game design and removing that “pay to reset” mechanic would be among the first things I’d do if in charge of the game. However, a game needs to be balanced to be fun for all sides of the equation. So, while I have a couple ideas what I would give gankers in return to offset this removal, I doubt you’d do that, I guess you simply want to see ganking go away as a whole. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/267 "2026-02-23T15:24:35Z")
He still hasn’t explained why ganking needs another nerf. Miners get ganked - ok, so what? What’s the problem? ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/268 "2026-02-23T15:37:18Z")
There is a cynical little voice on my shoulder that whispers the problem is ganks still happen, and the only solution is to make it so cumbersome that they stop. ---
**Author:** ![Asveron\_Durr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/asveron_durr/32/473468_2.png) [@Asveron\_Durr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Asveron_Durr)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/269 "2026-02-23T16:17:41Z")
Why? Piracy is legitimate gameplay…even in the star wars universe neither the Republic, or the Empire was able to stamp out piracy… ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/270 "2026-02-23T16:35:38Z")
> [@Done25](#): > > Because there would be no point. There’s no profit to be made if you don’t have an an alt grab the drops with, not that they’d be equipped with anything of significant value, and then you’d have to deal with a kill right for 30 days owned by someone whos entire play style revolves around camping the Jita undock. Some of us don’t care about ‘profit’ from PvP. I am already hugely rich. I kill for the fun of it….often leaving others the spoil. And gankers generally don’t camp the Jita undock…other than the odd solo ganker. Most of those camping are after suspects. One already needs high scan resolution to zap anyone outside Jita…and the extra time it takes to accept a kill right just gives the target more time to get away. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/271 "2026-02-23T16:40:25Z")
> [@T\_Elliot](#): > > the problem is ganks still happen Yes, its called EVE gameplay. I don’t understand your ‘problem’….as you do not appear to have undocked since 2014 anyway. It is really quite laughable that people such as yourself who barely play EVE whine so much, whilst people such as myself regularly fly highly gankable ships yet have no problem with ganking. The risk is fun ! ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/272 "2026-02-23T16:49:46Z")
> [@T\_Elliot](#): > > Or do you mean something else? Hi, sorry about the slow/small replies. Responding between help tickets. Yes, I was referring to the player security status mechanic. (That said, I do think resets being cheap, instant, and infinitely reusable is unbalanced. You certain can’t do that for faction standings.) The player’s security status is supposed to the the long term punishment for repeated law breaking. (Yes, shooting people in low sec is still against the law, even with no CONCORD response.) The problem? Being flagged as an outlaw only punishes people who play the game “honestly”. (By which I mean low sec pirates. I have no problem with their play style as a concept.) Not only are outlaw downsides easily bypassed with alternate characters/accounts, but it does literally nothing against people who sit in station until a target is scouted. Being an outlaw prevents you from docking in a ship, but it does nothing to stop you from **un** docking in one, and since suicide gankers rarely plan on actually returning with their ship intact… ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/273 "2026-02-23T16:56:06Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > It might not affect career criminals that much, but it definitely affects honest HS players if they were considering doing not-so-honest things and as such keeps HS a little bit safer. Which is why I say it’s a flawed concept. Sure it works as intended 1% of the time, but for the most part it’s an absolute non-factor for anyone who’s serious about suicide ganking. ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/274 "2026-02-23T16:59:27Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > Some of us don’t care about ‘profit’ from PvP. I am already hugely rich. I kill for the fun of it….often leaving others the spoil. Which is one of the reasons why the current “punishment” system fails. Just like irl, fines are only a punishment if the money you spend paying them off matters to you. > [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > And gankers generally don’t camp the Jita undock…other than the odd solo ganker. Most of those camping are after suspects. One already needs high scan resolution to zap anyone outside Jita…and the extra time it takes to accept a kill right just gives the target more time to get away. I pretty much always seem to spot 3~4 low security status tornadoes camping the undock whenever I swing by Jita. These are the people who I think abuse the reset system the most. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/275 "2026-02-23T17:02:17Z")
> [@Done25](#): > > I do think resets being cheap, instant, and infinitely reusable So how about increasing the price of the security tag to 100 trillion isk? Is that acceptable to you? ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/276 "2026-02-23T17:08:57Z")
> [@Done25](#): > > Which is why I say it’s a flawed concept. Sure it works as intended 1% of the time, but for the most part it’s an absolute non-factor for anyone who’s serious about suicide ganking. Just because it doesn’t do much against people who are career suicide gankers doesn’t mean it is worthless. A lot more non-regular gankers would make attacks of opportunity if doing so was without this particular consequence. ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/277 "2026-02-23T17:10:27Z")
Sure, let’s go with that. I’m so glad you came up with such a reasonable suggestion. 🙂 If it was up to me? The mechanic would simply be removed. It should never have been added in the first place. Someone spent three months gate camping and podding in lowsec, and now they want back into high sec? Too bad. Enjoy your -10 status. Grind it back like any other kind of standing if you want to fix it. ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/278 "2026-02-23T17:20:52Z")
I’m not saying it’s completely useless, just that it’s heavily flawed. Namely in that it’s a non-factor for the worst offenders. ---
**Author:** ![Anna\_Dyneaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_dyneaux/32/510758_2.png) [@Anna\_Dyneaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Dyneaux)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/279 "2026-02-23T17:24:36Z")
Okay, so say they remove ganking completely. I’m guessing it’s a matter of weeks, if not days, before miners start complaining that belt rats spawned and killed their hulk, refusing to listen to the people saying to replace a single Mining Drone II with a Hornet I. So they remove belt rats, and suddenly the issue is that Hulks have too little cargo bay and no built-in compression. ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/280 "2026-02-23T17:34:19Z")
> [@Anna\_Dyneaux](#): > > So they remove belt rats I believe they removed the belt rat spawns from the 1.0 systems. ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/281 "2026-02-23T17:59:46Z")
> [@Done25](#): > > now they want back into high sec? Too bad. Enjoy your -10 status. I’m not taking a side on this thing one way or another, but it’s not like -10 stops anyone from enjoying the benefits of high sec. They will just use alts to go buy stuff from Jita or wherever and do whatever it is they need to do in high sec. In this sense tags don’t really matter much. And grinding the status back was always possible, and yeah it took longer, but it wasn’t that difficult either. If you really wanted it back, you ground it. If you didn’t care about it, you used alts. And then there are always those for whom their -10 is a status symbol. Those won’t tag or grind it up anyway. I’m not seeing that much of an effect in terms of consequences, except maybe saving the criminal a few days of grinding. ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/282 "2026-02-23T18:15:14Z")
> [@Meridan\_Night](#): > > They will just use alts to go buy stuff from Jita Yea, I feel that Eve is a game that is at it’s most healthy when each payer only has a single character. Not a single account. A single **character**. That will never happen though, so no point in discussing it. > [@Meridan\_Night](#): > > yeah it took longer > [@Meridan\_Night](#): > > except maybe saving the criminal a few days of grinding. That’s the point though. So that they can’t simply pay their way past the punishment, and then go back to what they were doing. ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/283 "2026-02-23T18:37:00Z")
The wealthy being able to buy their way out of legal difficulties in a game set in an anarcho-capitalist dystopia is actually extremely reasonable and lore-consistent. ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/284 "2026-02-23T18:54:38Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > Yes, its called EVE gameplay. I don’t understand your ‘problem’….as you do not appear to have undocked since 2014 anyway. It is really quite laughable that people such as yourself who barely play EVE whine so much, whilst people such as myself regularly fly highly gankable ships yet have no problem with ganking. The risk is fun ! Hello @Gloria_Exercitus You’ve not read many of my posts have you? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/285 "2026-02-23T19:07:47Z")
> [@Done25](#): > > The player’s security status is supposed to the the long term punishment for repeated law breaking. (Yes, shooting people in low sec is still against the law, even with no CONCORD response.) > > The problem? Being flagged as an outlaw only punishes people who play the game “honestly”. (By which I mean low sec pirates. I have no problem with their play style as a concept.) > > Not only are outlaw downsides easily bypassed with alternate characters/accounts, but it does literally nothing against people who sit in station until a target is scouted. Being an outlaw prevents you from docking in a ship, but it does nothing to stop you from **un** docking in one, and since suicide gankers rarely plan on actually returning with their ship intact… Negative security status is a pain if you plan on ganking. It is “fixable” with tags, but that adds more cost that has to be mitigated and makes ganking margins smaller, forcing gankers to be more selective. Your problems seem to be distillable to the security status hit not stopping ganking playstyle, and therefore they don’t do anything. Why just not say out loud that you are petitioning to have ganking playstyle removed? The counterplay for ganking is easy, you it requires one to actually play the game. If there was a problem with ganking, I might agree with you, but there isn’t. Ganking is very rare and very avoidable. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818.md?page=13) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818.md?page=15)