# Concern about Highsec Ganking, Fake “Consequences,” and Omega Players as Farm Content **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 17, 2026, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818 "2026-02-17T17:41:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sepathori\_Raphadon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepathori_raphadon/32/491484_2.png) [@Sepathori\_Raphadon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sepathori_Raphadon)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2026, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/23 "2026-02-17T21:21:42Z")
Pfffftttt… 😂 😂 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2026, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/24 "2026-02-17T21:30:38Z")
> [@Sepathori\_Raphadon](#): > > I was not the only one that was under this impression. In fact I adopted the info from in game monitoring channels quoting alpha accounts all the time. They could have been referring to alpha fits. Is finding reliable, accurate sources not a fairly important part of research? And, in this context, sight unseen, I would say they were most likely talking about _alpha damage_, which is essentially just the immediately applied volley damage, as opposed to DPS, which is sustained damage over time. Artillery, for instance, has very high alpha, but fairly modest DPS. > [@Sepathori\_Raphadon](#): > > And the fact that you say just learn to fly better ? Yes. Learn to play better. That is really all there is to it. > [@Sepathori\_Raphadon](#): > > So you jumping into Jita with a command ship and Boom there is 20 ships ganking you immediately ? There have been 7 recorded kills of the command ship group in Jita in the last _90_ days and not a single one of them is a suicide gank. Adding the Odysseus brings it to 9 (still no ganks). Industrial command ships brings it to 22, all of which appear to be “legal” kills that did not incur a concord response. [https://zkillboard.com/asearchsaved/6994db53544f822f6c0f7801/](https://zkillboard.com/asearchsaved/6994db53544f822f6c0f7801/) > [@Sepathori\_Raphadon](#): > > How does ‘fly better’ apply in this instance because dear sir THAT is the exact discussion of this topic. It’s not a matter of fly better,it’s a matter of game mechanics being twisted and severely impeding game play. You should ask yourself how it is possible that other players are able to fly around in high sec, day in and day out, in ships far more expensive than yours, all without getting ganked. To what might we attribute that? 🤔 Is it luck? ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2026, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/25 "2026-02-17T21:40:28Z")
I would have liked giving some fitting advice about those two command ships you lost to ganks, but it seems your character hasn’t lost any ships at all. Not to ganks, none. Either way, a command ship with proper defences and a T2 fit isn’t worth ganking at all. They can have massive amounts of health. ---
**Author:** ![Tyree\_Jinx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tyree_jinx/32/509062_2.png) [@Tyree\_Jinx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tyree_Jinx)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2026, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/26 "2026-02-17T21:40:40Z")
> [@Sepathori\_Raphadon](#): > > Organizing meaningful defense requires structures, SRP, logistics, fleets on call – huge effort compared to the cost of a gank squad. not true, it is super simple to make yourself an undesirable target. people just refuse to learn ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2026, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/27 "2026-02-17T21:44:30Z")
> [@Sepathori\_Raphadon](#): > > You’re told highsec is “safer” and a good place to learn. Safer and safe are not the same thing. CCP themselves, through the game, says that space is dangerous. Highsec is safer than all other areas of space, however it is NOT safe. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Fuchs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_fuchs/32/504955_2.png) [@James\_Fuchs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Fuchs)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2026, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/28 "2026-02-17T22:12:26Z")
I am very close to making a ganking thread of my own, where I talk about all the risks, costs and challenges involved with high sec ganking. With human regards -James Fuchs ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2026, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/29 "2026-02-17T22:52:32Z")
Can you try to do research on paragraphs? 🧱 ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2026, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/30 "2026-02-17T23:01:27Z")
> [@Sepathori\_Raphadon](#): > > Dude i do this every day at work. Come on..get with the times… Well, you’re not gonna find a lot of people over here who will read your original post from start to finish like that. I only read the first 2 paragraphs that appeared like actually written by a human. I wouldn’t be surprised if nobody read your post past the title. It’s not ‘‘getting with the times’’ when I have to read garbage instead of thought-out, if badly worded text by a person who has put his mind to it. Why don’t you try actual thought process instead of spitting out automated nonsense that isn’t worth the time of day of anybody? The fact that you ‘‘do this garbage every day at work’’ isn’t an argument. More garbage does not somehow legitimize it. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2026, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/31 "2026-02-17T23:04:26Z")
I bet he doesn’t actually do any work. Maybe what he means is that he has ChatGPT create forum posts when he is supposed to be working… ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2026, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/32 "2026-02-17T23:05:59Z")
That’s a legitimate interpretation. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2026, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/33 "2026-02-17T23:09:24Z")
> [@Sepathori\_Raphadon](#): > > Dude i do this every day at work. Come on..get with the times… You should know that AI is a tool and not a replacement for actual thought. Your OP is AI slop, does not read well, and has false information. You are relying on a tool that has not been coarsely tuned, much less finely tuned. The format is readable, that’s about all I can say positively about your OP. ---
**Author:** ![Blenden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blenden/32/498978_2.png) [@Blenden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Blenden)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2026, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/34 "2026-02-18T00:21:34Z")
Painful but memorable game experience, CCP got the balance right. Each time I get ganked in HighSec successfully, I kick myself, but it is always my fault (either looting yellow containers, too slow to alogn or not having Warp Core stabs or other means to run away quickly etc)… I love this game ---
**Author:** ![LowKey\_Chandler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lowkey_chandler/32/441798_2.png) [@LowKey\_Chandler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LowKey_Chandler)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2026, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/35 "2026-02-18T01:33:55Z")
Something I should have known but didn’t. Noted. Makes sense, though. CCP is not going to let you educate people (piss folks off) for free. ---
**Author:** ![LowKey\_Chandler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lowkey_chandler/32/441798_2.png) [@LowKey\_Chandler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LowKey_Chandler)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2026, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/36 "2026-02-18T01:39:14Z")
Note that an mwd, improved cloak, and some inertial stabilizes will fit in one of the standard cargo containers. This will get you through most of those dangerous 5 systems. As for missions, mining and such, do them elsewhere. I finally realized 5s are yellow for a reason. ---
**Author:** ![Kana\_Kito](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kana_kito/32/481067_2.png) [@Kana\_Kito](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kana_Kito)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2026, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/37 "2026-02-18T03:53:11Z")
Many players will criticize the OP, but they fail to address the point that HS ganking is too low risk for a high reward activity. Yes, Eve is a PvP game at its core. Eve as it was designed and intended by devs, even stated as such in the past many times, is balanced around risk vs reward. All activities carry inherent risk for potential reward. As a ganker with a squad of cheap DDs, what is the risk on the table? You lose some cheaply fitted hulls to CONCORD. What is the gain potential? Huge. Cargo, loot drops. Basically like Somali pirates with infinite lives/respawns vs huge juicy targets. Saying that, there are definitely ways to reduce the risk of being ganked, but the fact remains, the system CCP designed, re: crime & punishment is laughably exploitable and thus, it’s far too lucrative for the risk & we have the result that is “High Security” empire space which is infested space pirates who are mildly inconvenienced when they fail. But this is part of the game. The devs have shown no intention of changing their laughable CONCORD & kill right system. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2026, 3:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/38 "2026-02-18T03:57:47Z")
> [@Kana\_Kito](#): > > HS ganking is too low risk According to what metric? Is the opinion of someone who has no practical experience a useful guide to game development? > [@Kana\_Kito](#): > > is laughably exploitable and thus, it’s far too lucrative If that were true, you could be doing it for megabig easy isk. The fact you aren’t able to do this, is compelling evidence which refutes your claim. ---
**Author:** ![Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/your_ex-girlfriend/32/429252_2.png) [@Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Your_Ex-Girlfriend)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2026, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/39 "2026-02-18T08:24:32Z")
> [@Kana\_Kito](#): > > HS ganking is too low risk for a high reward activity I don’t think you understand how risk/reward works. Mitigating a risk does not remove the risk, simply lessens the impact if it happens. When I worked road construction, we did risk assessments at every job site. We can put up all the signs and cones, yell at drivers to stop, but people still drive straight into the hole. Nullbears rat/mine nearly risk free for some of the highest rewards this game offers, not because the risk isn’t there, but because they’ve mitigated the risk to the point of irrelevancy if you fly smart. Highsec gankers know they’re going to lose the ganking ships. Make yourself not worth that expense and you’re 99.9999% immune to ganking. If you can make yourself 99.9999% immune to something, then it is not a problem. Stop driving past all the warning devices and straight into the hole in the road. There’s a good chance there’s a sewer pipe down there, and you’re going to be in a crappy situation. Or worse, a gas main, like what I worked on. ---
**Author:** ![Sepathori\_Raphadon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepathori_raphadon/32/491484_2.png) [@Sepathori\_Raphadon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sepathori_Raphadon)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2026, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/40 "2026-02-18T11:17:01Z")
I am not exposing exact kills and ship types guys my main is on another account and i do not want that account exposed ---
**Author:** ![Lesican](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lesican/32/448285_2.png) [@Lesican](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lesican)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2026, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/41 "2026-02-18T11:19:00Z")
> [@Sepathori\_Raphadon](#): > > So you jumping into Jita with a command ship and Boom there is 20 ships ganking you immediately [https://zkillboard.com/system/30000142/reset/group/540/losses/](https://zkillboard.com/system/30000142/reset/group/540/losses/) The last time a command ship was ganked it Jita was July last year, and it wasn’t you ---
**Author:** ![Sepathori\_Raphadon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepathori_raphadon/32/491484_2.png) [@Sepathori\_Raphadon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sepathori_Raphadon)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2026, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/42 "2026-02-18T11:22:59Z")
mate, i used to collect the thoughts and directions of many players, and compile it into a single thread for discussion. seriously get over it or go away , if you not going to be part of the discussion please take your flame elsewhere [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818.md?page=3)