# Concern about Highsec Ganking, Fake “Consequences,” and Omega Players as Farm Content **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 17, 2026, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818 "2026-02-17T17:41:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 4:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/124 "2026-02-21T04:01:01Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Of course, we all know gankers will create enough alts no matter what is done, but this will at least force them to put a bit of effort into the gank. Isn’t that right? Its a statement of fact that the two positions are not comparable, not a request to change the mechanic. ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/125 "2026-02-21T04:04:12Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > Then fit enough buffer for RR to land? What the heck do you even talk about? As before, EHP has a hard cap, DPS does not. The attacker is always going to be in a more advantageous position and the current overall effect is a system inherently biased in the aggressors favour. That in itself is not a problem, is that there is a total absence of meaningful consequence. ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/126 "2026-02-21T04:05:38Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > You aren’t understanding - he wants the most unfit AFK solo ships to have sufficient buffer. Is a font size increase required? **Remove security status tags** ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/127 "2026-02-21T04:06:08Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > there is a total absence of meaningful consequence. If security tags are 100 trillion isk, and CONCORD pursues gankers into lowsec and pods them even if they flee to nullsec, would that be sufficient consequence - or should CONCORD also hunt down the gankers in wormholes? What exactly constitutes a “meaingful consequence”? ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/128 "2026-02-21T04:19:06Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > EHP has a hard cap, DPS does not. So what? Analyzing the opponents tactic is _part of playing the game_. If they have a camp of 50 Talos (extremely unlikely) that cannot be outrepped with any reasonable amount of support, _just dodge it_. Everyone else in the game, in Lowsec, in Null, in JSpace would dodge this fleet if he has not enough forces to fight them. Or if he does and think he can win, he would know and _accept_ that in the beginning he will suffer some losses before he can turn the tide with a better setup than they have. And that is absolutely no problem. Why should HS get an exception here? I really have no idea how you construct a _problem_ out of that. Such overwhelming DPS doesn’t magically spawn right next to you. They can’t magically beam your ship into their crosshairs. You can SEE such a camp with a simple scout and then you go around it, wait until they attack someone else or accept that this position is currently held by a superior force that you cannot engage. There _is no problem_. Know your position. Know your options. Make reasonable decisions. It’s totally easy to handle that. It’s ridiculous to claim we have any kind of _problem_ here. We have not. You don’t have to inevitably die to that “huge DPS ganking fleet that you can’t even remote-repair against any more”. Just don’t jump into it. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/129 "2026-02-21T04:23:18Z")
He wants to be able to autopilot AFK through the gatecamp. Are you even trying to understand his perspective? ---
**Author:** ![Yukisa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yukisa/32/480609_2.png) [@Yukisa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yukisa)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/130 "2026-02-21T05:32:55Z")
Cost of ganks drive the list of viable or profitable targets. Higher cost reduces the target list thereby reducing the incidence of ganks, thereby reducing the toxic play style and it’s effects on the community. Logic. ---
**Author:** ![Yukisa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yukisa/32/480609_2.png) [@Yukisa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yukisa)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/131 "2026-02-21T05:40:27Z")
You people love to boast about risk in Eve making it special. What are the risks for gankers? On failure, they lose cheap fitted ships without kill or no cargo drops. On success they gain cargo that could be profitable to ridiculous levels. The punishment system does not even deter bcos of how easy it is to use the wealth gained from successful ganks to buy back security status. It’s basically the case that concord tolerates the most sadistic mass killers and mayhem piracy bc they paid some monetary fines. It seems highly disproportionate risk is placed on victims, with a minor slap on the proverbial wrist for the bandits. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/132 "2026-02-21T06:14:19Z")
> [@Yukisa](#): > > Cost of ganks drive the list of viable or profitable targets. Higher cost reduces the target list thereby reducing the incidence of ganks, thereby reducing the toxic play style and it’s effects on the community. Logic. Would it be fair to have a cost of 100 trillion per gank? To ensure risk, CCP can use a random number generator: 1-99 the ganker pays 100 trillion, with a 0 the ganker pays 1 quintillion. That way it is risky and yet people can still gank. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Meltdown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blue_meltdown/32/451856_2.png) [@Blue\_Meltdown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Blue_Meltdown)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/133 "2026-02-21T07:32:44Z")
Do you know how you could increase the cost of gankers? Blow them up while they still have their suspect timers running. Works wonders and most of the time they aren’t even mad at you. And before you accuse me of being also a high^sec ganker.. i’m not, i’m just selling exploration permits in JSpace. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/134 "2026-02-21T07:34:06Z")
The flaw in your idea is that they would have to actually do something for themselves. Why should they play their own game? CCP should modify the game so that they can make all the isk they want with minimal effort. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/135 "2026-02-21T09:04:03Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > DPS scales linearly with the number of ships, EHP has a finite ceiling. If it were practical to simply apply more remote repair in the same way gankers apply more damage, there might be a bare resemblance of a even contest. So, uhm… Why not do exactly what you just said? Simply apply more remote repair in the same way gankers apply more damage. What is stopping you? ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/136 "2026-02-21T10:08:15Z")
> [@Yukisa](#): > > Cost of ganks drive the list of viable or profitable targets. Higher cost reduces the target list Just use a fitting that get you off that list. You can double, triple or even quadruple most ship’s HP with a good fitting. Why should CCP do _your_ job? ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/137 "2026-02-21T10:54:19Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > the point where non consensual PvP occurs You’ve been told numerous times that there is _no such thing_ as ‘non consensual PvP’ in EVE. It is _explicitly clear_ in practically every video or text or Wiki on EVE that undocking constitutes consent to PvP. The well worn phrase ‘ don’t undock what you can’t afford to lose ‘ derives directly from that. If you don’t like that, then the door is that ====\> way. I’m sure Farmville would be more to your satisfaction. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/138 "2026-02-21T11:01:17Z")
> [@Yukisa](#): > > You people love to boast about risk in Eve making it special. What are the risks for gankers? > > On failure, they lose cheap fitted ships without kill or no cargo drops. On success they gain cargo that could be profitable to ridiculous levels. The risk for gankers is _you_ fitting your ship properly so you are not such an easy kill. Risk in EVE isn’t something CCP dish out…..it is created or reduced by the players themselves. Stop expecting CCP to ‘fix’ everything when they have provided you with the tools to fix things yourself. I mean…that is what the game is all about ! ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/140 "2026-02-21T11:46:56Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > The risk for gankers is _you_ fitting your ship properly so you are not such an easy kill. That. I once baited Gankers in Uedama to waste 54 Catalysts on a Rattlesnake. It was glorious to see them all go up in flames and quite satisfying to see a plan work out. I even got some gf’s in local from them. That was pretty expensive if you calc in the sec status loss for 54 characters on top of the destroyed Cats (T2 fitted). Everyone who complains that ganking has low risk can simply increase that risk by sending them a good bait once in a while. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/141 "2026-02-21T11:47:08Z")
> [@James\_Fuchs](#): > > And you have to go to jail in iceland for 20 years. CCP Hilmar will personally commandeer and parachute out of a helicopter, cuff you and turn you in to the iceland authorities. Darn it….someone leaked the script for Stranger Things VI already. ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/142 "2026-02-21T11:55:01Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > The risk for gankers is _you_ fitting your ship properly so you are not such an easy kill. Gankers could be put out of business if everyone just stopped fitting and flying like absolute clowns. Fortunately for the local royalty, it seems there will always be a subset of players who are genuinely outraged by the idea that they should take any responsibility at all for keeping their ships alive. ---
**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/143 "2026-02-21T12:07:21Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > **Remove security status tags** I assume you don’t remember the times before security status tags then? Because there were such times, and there was not less ganking. It was a little more tedious to grind up your sec status, and you couldn’t just do it with a pile of ISK, but removing the tags is unlikely to alter the number of ganks. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/144 "2026-02-21T12:18:53Z")
People could also just buy off all security tags from the market, making prices for them go up to ridiculous amounts. Looking at the total trading volume of those tags in the Universe, even a small group of dedicated people could raise the funds to almost completely remove them from public access. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818.md?page=8)