# Concern about Highsec Ganking, Fake “Consequences,” and Omega Players as Farm Content **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 17, 2026, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818 "2026-02-17T17:41:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/145 "2026-02-21T12:23:29Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > Analyzing the opponents tactic is _part of playing the game_. If they have a camp of 50 Talos (extremely unlikely) that cannot be outrepped with any reasonable amount of support, _just dodge it_. > [@Syzygium](#): > > You don’t have to inevitably die to that “huge DPS ganking fleet that you can’t even remote-repair against any more”. Just don’t jump into it. That would be a possibility if there was more than one route from Amarr to Jita via high security space, alas _just dodging_ its another disingenuous response and weak attempt at gaslighting the problem. > [@Syzygium](#): > > Why should HS get an exception here? The argument is not against the loss, removal of security status tags only changes the cost of the consequences. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > He wants to be able to autopilot AFK through the gatecamp. Did not say that either. > [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > Remove security status tags > [@Yukisa](#): > > Cost of ganks drive the list of viable or profitable targets. Nothing about removing security status tags changes the ISK metrics, only the time spent managing the security status loss. > [@Yukisa](#): > > The punishment system does not even deter bcos of how easy it is to use the wealth gained from successful ganks to buy back security status. It’s basically the case that concord tolerates the most sadistic mass killers and mayhem piracy bc they paid some monetary fines. Yes, this. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Would it be fair to have a cost of 100 trillion per gank? To ensure risk, CCP can use a random number generator: 1-99 the ganker pays 100 trillion, with a 0 the ganker pays 1 quintillion. That way it is risky and yet people can still gank. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > CCP should modify the game so that they can make all the isk they want with minimal effort. Is there no optometrists ? > [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > Remove security status tags > [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > What is stopping you? Insufficient buffer, mechanics that punish logi. > [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > You’ve been told numerous times that there is _no such thing_ as ‘non consensual PvP’ in EVE. Try ganking in a starter system and see how long that lasts before an account ban hits. > [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > The well worn phrase ‘ don’t undock what you can’t afford to lose ‘ derives directly from that. Explain SRP then? > [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > The risk for gankers is _you_ fitting your ship properly so you are not such an easy kill. Rubbish, the enemy have a ship scan of your fit fast than it can jump a gate. > [@Namdor](#): > > Gankers could be put out of business if everyone just stopped fitting and flying like absolute clowns. So those empty rookie ships getting blown up by bored catalyst pilots just needed to fit a larger shield extender and they would be ok huh? > [@Lucy\_Alfrir](#): > > t was a little more tedious to grind up your sec status, and you couldn’t just do it with a pile of ISK, but removing the tags is unlikely to alter the number of ganks. Then what is the problem? Do it already. > [@Syzygium](#): > > People could also just buy off all security tags from the market, making prices for them go up to ridiculous amounts. Does not stop their generation. ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/146 "2026-02-21T12:25:43Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > So those empty rookie ships getting blown up by bored catalyst pilots just needed to fit a larger shield extender and they would be ok huh? Is blowing up empty rookie ships a sustainable activity for gankers? I know being disingenuous is sort of your thing that you do, but pretending that there is some scale problem with rookie ships getting ganked is uniquely laughable. ---
**Author:** ![Lucy\_Alfrir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucy_alfrir/32/382506_2.png) [@Lucy\_Alfrir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lucy_Alfrir)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/147 "2026-02-21T12:37:06Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > > [@Lucy\_Alfrir](#): > > > > it was a little more tedious to grind up your sec status, and you couldn’t just do it with a pile of ISK, but removing the tags is unlikely to alter the number of ganks. > > Then what is the problem? Do it already. The problem is for low sec pirates, i.e. people who live in lowsec and PvP, if they get wardecced by a highsec corp and can’t tag up to be able to attack a highsec structure they have a much longer grind ratting to sec up than the highsec gankers ever do. So removing tags won’t change highsec ganking but will make wardeccing lowsec pirates OP. ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/148 "2026-02-21T12:42:06Z")
> [@Namdor](#): > > I know being disingenuous is sort of your thing that you do, but pretending that there is some scale problem with rookie ships getting ganked is uniquely laughable. Not what was said, only countering the assertion a well fit ship results in a safer outcome, as for some ships, there is no safe fit and for some gankers, they attack on ‘principle’ and not profit. > [@Lucy\_Alfrir](#): > > The problem is for low sec pirates, i.e. people who live in lowsec and PvP, if they get wardecced by a highsec corp and can’t tag up to be able to attack a highsec structure they have a much longer grind ratting to sec up than the highsec gankers ever do. What gankers or low sec pirates care for war declarations by people in high sec? If the high security corp comes to low sec, one would say they are not a high security space corporation anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/149 "2026-02-21T12:49:47Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > That would be a possibility if there was more than one route from Amarr to Jita via high security space, alas _just dodging_ its another disingenuous response and weak attempt at gaslighting the problem. It _is_ a possibility because there are multiple HS routes from Jita to Amarr and back at each given moment. HS to HS whs exist, eve-scout exist. And besides that, the game has absolutely _zero_ obligation to even offer a freely accessible HS route at all times. Delaying your trip or trying routes via Pochven, Wormholes or Lowsec are a completely viable option. It isn’t like your ship magically explodes the moment you leave HS. Maneuvering out of HS is also a thing that can be learned, easily. ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/150 "2026-02-21T12:50:10Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > Not what was said, only countering the assertion a well fit ship results in a safer outcome, as for some ships, there is no safe fit and for some gankers, they attack on ‘principle’ and not profit. “Seatbelts save lives” “WHAT ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT STILL DIE WITH A SEATBELT ON?” -You, probably Insipid to the core. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/151 "2026-02-21T15:58:54Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > _just dodging_ its another disingenuous response and weak attempt at gaslighting the problem. You are SO right - why should you have to dodge anything? You should be able to do what you want, when you want, where you want, how you want - and you shouldn’t ever have to deviate in any way, or take into account anything other than your own interest. Is that right? ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Meltdown](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blue_meltdown/32/451856_2.png) [@Blue\_Meltdown](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Blue_Meltdown)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/152 "2026-02-21T17:59:09Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > That would be a possibility if there was more than one route from Amarr to Jita via high security space, alas _just dodging_ its another disingenuous response and weak attempt at gaslighting the problem You know that are some safe routes, including LowSec, that don’t take 50+ Jumps? Just because you have to visit a LowSec doesn’t mean you get instant blown up. Did this route more then once, scouted some BS and Hauler throu that systems and never lost one ship. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/153 "2026-02-21T18:13:06Z")
Dodging a threat you can’t engage head to head is simply using the tactical options the game offers. In any other game that wouldn’t even be a discussion. If you encounter a damn Level 97 Firedragon in an RPG with your level 32 casual melee warrior you don’t go let your self be toasted a 100 times and then complain to the game developer that there is “a problem”. If your opponents holds a chokepoint in Starcraft with bunkers and tanks you don’t run your army into it trying to storm the fortress and complaining afterwards if everything dies. If you try to get to your Loadout in Call of Duty Warzone and the location is camped by a whole squad of max. equipped tryhards and you have only your pistol, you don’t die trying and cry to the Devs afterwards. If the threat level is too high, you reevaluate your options. That is called _gameplay_. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/154 "2026-02-21T21:30:41Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > That would be a possibility if there was more than one route from Amarr to Jita via high security space And what will you do when that route is cut off? It’s a high likely hood with the upcoming breakout of war between the Empires. ---
**Author:** ![Sepathori\_Raphadon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepathori_raphadon/32/491484_2.png) [@Sepathori\_Raphadon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sepathori_Raphadon)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/155 "2026-02-21T23:06:05Z")
it seems to me pal that it is only YOUR interest and views that matters here. Anything that does not go down your street is met with sarcasm and stupid responses. Kindly up your maturity level a bit. it will be appreciated ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/156 "2026-02-21T23:13:39Z")
> [@Sepathori\_Raphadon](#): > > it is only YOUR interest and views that matters here Yes, I agree. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Fuchs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_fuchs/32/504955_2.png) [@James\_Fuchs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Fuchs)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/157 "2026-02-21T23:15:39Z")
> [@Sepathori\_Raphadon](#): > > it seems to me pal that it is only YOUR interest and views that matters here. Anything that does not go down your street is met with sarcasm and stupid responses. Kindly up your maturity level a bit. it will be appreciated I think you meant to reply to @Eloken_Toralen ? Doesn’t make sense to me otherwise. With mature regards -James Fuchs ---
**Author:** ![Sepathori\_Raphadon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepathori_raphadon/32/491484_2.png) [@Sepathori\_Raphadon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sepathori_Raphadon)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/158 "2026-02-21T23:18:21Z")
No it was directed exactly at who it needed to go to. Elena Token’s responses are mature, without sarcasm, no toxicity and lifts valid points and arguments. @Aiko Danuja is just childish, immature and a general pest who needs to take his flame and childishness somewhere else. His inputs hold no credit other than deliberate little angry syndrome issues which he like to spit at others trying to debate on a centralized issue. There is no place for adults with 10 year old attitudes here… ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/159 "2026-02-21T23:22:17Z")
Please do not make personal attacks in the forums. That’s not appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![Sepathori\_Raphadon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepathori_raphadon/32/491484_2.png) [@Sepathori\_Raphadon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sepathori_Raphadon)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/160 "2026-02-21T23:23:16Z")
same goes for you ---
**Author:** ![James\_Fuchs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_fuchs/32/504955_2.png) [@James\_Fuchs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Fuchs)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/161 "2026-02-21T23:23:23Z")
So you’re picking Aiko, who is making legitimate points and counter-arguments that highlight all the errors and mistakes of @Eloken_Toralen when he he is making non-sense arguments and essentially just wants to remove ganking without saying it out loud? How does that make sense in your head? With confused regards -James Fuchs ---
**Author:** ![Sepathori\_Raphadon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepathori_raphadon/32/491484_2.png) [@Sepathori\_Raphadon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sepathori_Raphadon)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/162 "2026-02-21T23:23:55Z")
Ther eis a lervel of response that gioverns a bit of maturity during discussions. No the toxic flame that is being experienced. There is fart better ways of wording things in a situation where something is discussed and unfoirtunatelky with regards to that player that is non existant. I fully accepts arguments from all, no problem, but i cannot agree with the childish nature and sarcasm expressed in that player’s posts. do it properly or go away. simple ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/163 "2026-02-21T23:24:30Z")
I think you are just mad that ganking exists, and nothing you can write will ever change that basic fact. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2026, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818/164 "2026-02-21T23:26:20Z")
What you forget to realize is that his replies may be mature and calm, but are also simply _wrong_. Repeatedly proven wrong. It is not a sign of honest discussion to simply repeat nonsense. At least not in my book. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/concern-about-highsec-ganking-fake-consequences-and-omega-players-as-farm-content/506818.md?page=9)